Honestly, MLs tend to do this with a lot of convos, I feel.
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And more ethical to consume doesn’t mean ethical. It may be slightly less worse but that doesn’t mean acceptable or okay
That is a subjective viewpoint from your personal tastes. How does that determine morality? Who are you to say that its slightly worse but not acceptable?
I would argue that it’s not acceptable for the reasons given but the idea that it’s not as bad as traditional pornography is subjective and my own opinion. I won’t say that that is absolutely true but is simply what I think.
I can agree with you there. That is reasonable and how opinions work. However the reasons listed are themselves still subjective since they do not apply to a wide array of situations. The problem arises more in attempting to impose that ideal on others who don't hold it.
That is reasonable to do when there are significant moral and ethical issues (CP, Bestiality, Revenge Porn, Rape, exploitatively media, inaccurate depictions, purposeful objectification and so on), but simply stating that sexual material as a monolith is entirely unacceptable would face immense backlash.
I understand why even if it may be something that people wouldn’t want to be opposed to but I do believe we ought to work to show why at least the more “mainstream” extremely problematic “pornography” ought to be opposed. I still think all sexual content ought to be opposed but that’s a lesser goal I think. I think some AES states have good policies on opposing sexual content without serious artistic or scientific value
I readily agree, exploitative and problematic depictions should be rallied against and serve little purpose in a progressive world. Thats why I stood in defense of the majority of drawn and written works, they avoid the common disgusting nature that something that the porn film industry perpetuates.
What I am arguing for is also what the vast majority of AES countries have implemented. For example, in China, porn is completely legal. No one cares if you draw boobies or dicks, film yourself with your partner (consensually of course), or write about your (unproblematic) fantasies. Hell, there are Chinese version of Rule34 and other porn art based websites. However, the porn industry is extremely highly monitored and illegal, physical sex work is very rare and illegal, and you cannot "advertise with sex".
That seems reasonable and entirely achievable. It both accomplishes countering the negative affects like you mentioned, prevents exploitation, and does not attempt to do something entirely unachievable or unenforceable such as rallying against all sexual content.
Also, another massive problem is who gets to decide what is or isn't sexual content?
I think China is definitely a step in the right direction but still I would personally argue for someone that covers a bit more of sexual content being illegal and limiting it far more. The thing with deciding what is illegal is something you could say about essentially anything. It would have to be determined through debates within a party and the people to decide the standards. Of course this is similar to limiting other things like deciding what counts as hateful content for example