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[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 28 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yes Macron said this back in 2017

https://www.elysee.fr/en/emmanuel-macron/2017/09/26/president-macron-gives-speech-on-new-initiative-for-europe

literally point number one:

  1. A Europe that guarantees security in all its aspects

In terms of defence, Europe must have a joint intervention force, a joint defence budget and a joint doctrine for action. We need to encourage the swift creation of a European Defence Fund, permanent structured cooperation, and supplement them with a European intervention initiative that better integrates our armed forces at all stages.

and what has changed since then and what is being implemented?

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Any decent EU military needs a common EU foreign policy. Both of those need treaty changes. Also Macron says a lot about Europe, but when he got the opportunity for action tends to fall short. France was in a great position to lead on Ukraine aid, but did not perform that amazingly.

EDIT: EU ammo purchases for Ukraine have been launched and some EU military organizational work as well, such as EU missions in Mali, the Red Sea and some other places. Also some good cooperation such as Germany and Netherlands integrating their armies.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Back then, Germany was barely warming up to the idea of a EU military. Now it seems to be a done deal, the European motor is going to churn and Poland seems to want to be part of it.

[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Poland doesn't want to be the welcome mat again.