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I didn't take it as a slight. I'm just wondering how we encourage people to work outside of the capitalistic system. I do volunteer work too and I don't see many people there, particularly of an employable age (most people are geriatric as they have the time).
Perhaps a UBI could get more people put there.
I don't know about a UBI in a country like Australia where we have existing and complex welfare systems in place, regardless of how many those systems have been de-funded, neglected, corporatised, privatised, dismantled etc. A UBI could be used to further weaken those systems and disadvantage more people.
We could certainly shorten the working day and the working week, introduce domestic labour income schemes, encourage more WFH (less travel from the burbs to the CBD) and so on. Basically anything that gives working people across all sectors more time to participate in fixing shit. I reckon most folks want to do more but they ain't got no time or energy after all that's required of them just to do all the work and family stuff they already do.
Edit: Forgot to mention, I think we could do with something like an 'Eco corp' but I dunno how that'd work and how it would be useful other than bringing folks together to work on fixing shit.
If the welfare system had a living wage that allowed you to redirect into charity, conservation, social work, education, etc, then sure, this complex system can stay. The argument for a UBI (or similar) is that the complex system needs replacement because it wastes money and is not fit for the purpose we need.
Personally, I shortened my working week by choice and took the financial hit, I then redirect that spare time into environmental work. I ask people to jump in and help while I supply everything and they don't because they aren't getting paid. They have the time to help but only if they get money. People definitely have the time, there is a perverse incentive to do the right thing. I'm not sure how the welfare system can help with that as it stands.