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The issue is genocide.
The rational choice would be throwing out every politician supporting genocide since genocide never limits its victims. If you vote for genocide you will always eventually become the victim if you do not physically start fighting your government.
Why didn't you throw out every politician supporting genocide then? Perhaps because that's not in your power to do as an individual?
I did my part in that, by not voting for any politician supporting genocide.
What exactly did that accomplish? Now we have a politician that supports genocide AND Russia's invasion of Ukraine AND stripping rights away from everyone who isn't a rich, white, cishet male. "Doing your part" made things objectively worse domestically, and will probably make the genocide worse too since he's BFFs with Netanyahu.
With friends like you who needs enemies?
Reread your last sentence back to yourself. If you can't figure out why people didn't support your racist right wing genocidier, then irony truly is dead.
I don't support either major party, but I oppose one more than the other. There's a difference between support and damage control. I'm not so callous that I'll allow suffering to increase so I can feel like my hands are squeaky clean. Next time you get a bright idea about how to "help", ask an adult first.
We've been doing "damage control" for longer than anyone you have ever met has been alive.
It ended in genocide. Maybe, 'adult', you should not repeatedly do the exact same fucking thing for more than a Century and hope for something different.
Actual adults can see a sunk cost fallacy. Wealth inequality is higher than it's ever been. We're comitting genocide. We have more slaves now than before the 13th was passed.
Yeah, it's great that statistically 20 years after the rest of the world for each human rights milestone we caught up.... Except for the fact pretty much none of those rights are in law, or in the constitution, so they can be taken away if we get too uppity.
Great damage control, genocidal technofeudalism.
I repeat, voting is not mutually exclusive with alternative methods. I never said it was sufficient for change, just that it buys time until those alternatives are mature enough to actually accomplish anything.
This is not sunk cost, this is using a garden hose to try to slow the spread of a fire until the firetruck arrives. Where's the firetruck? All I see are self-proclaimed firefighters sitting at the station, arguing over what kind of firehose to bring. Until the truck pulls up, I'm going to keep at it with the garden hose, and beg my neighbors to bring theirs to help. Because if we keep waiting for you to show up with the truck, the house will be burnt to cinders.
Spend a little less time criticizing my garden hose, and get the fucking firetruck out of the station.
You have a garden hose that sprays gasoline?
Metaphors aren't that hard for people with critical thinking skills. Ask one of them to explain it to you.
Correct, hence why I corrected your logic in your metaphor.
You still don't understand that being shot in the left nut or the right but doesn't change the shooter or the pain.
Very clearly not.
Where's the firetruck?
It'd get there a lot quicker if you'd stop pretending the firefighters shouldn't even try or are Russian agents or are secretly maga super soldiers or whatever bluemaga nonsense gets around and stopped insisting your hose of gasoline is giving us more time.
What? No they wouldn't. They've been putzing around at the station since before either of us were born. What's taking so long? Show me the firetruck. Wheels, engine, ladder, hoses, all assembled and ready to go. The firefighters haven't even started putting it together yet, much less on the road. Tick tock, house is burning. How many more decades do I have to wait?
If you don't want to be accused of being a shill, then stop helping them. Millions of voters refused just like you asked, and now we get genocidal fascists instead of genocidal liberals. MAGA got exactly what they wanted. You might not be a secret agent sent to disperse propaganda, but you definitely fell for one.
Lol. Even for anti-electoralists the point is to do something more impactful than voting. This is just an excuse to be lazy.