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The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has announced that starting in May 2025, following the publication of the final rule regarding the use of REAL ID enforcement across airports in the United States, travelers will have to have identification that meets security requirements.

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[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 11 points 4 months ago (14 children)

This is racist as fuck, incidentally.

The folks who have a hard time getting Real ID from their state are the usual people that our overlords like to oppress, as an example to the rest of us to keep us in line.

[–] sunglocto@lemmy.zip -5 points 4 months ago (13 children)

What?

ID for flying is racist?

How?

[–] Almrond@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Because it isn't about having an ID, it's about having that specific, fairly onerous to get, ID. Im white. and its going to be a nightmare for me to get one because my birth certificate is basically a paper saying that I don't have one. I used to be able to fly with my drivers license, which takes about an hour to get a replacement of (and no guff about documentation, any old ID and social is enough).

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hasn't like every state over the last 10 years started integrating Real ID into their drivers licenses? Unless you are traveling with an expired, or very close to expired, license; you should already have Real ID.

[–] Almrond@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah... Looks like you forget that there are about 10 states that might as well exist in the 1800s technologically. I live in one of them. We wont see REAL ID implemented on a state level for a couple of decades if digital signatures are anything to go by.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

As of September 2020, all states and DC are REAL ID compliant, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

[–] sunglocto@lemmy.zip -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So getting an ID is hard

How is that racist

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So getting an ID is hard How is that racist

Never been at the license desk at the same time as one white and one non-white person? The difference is very noticeable.

In the case I recall most clearly, the tears and obvious fear of lost livelihood were stark.

The effect is racist, but the root intent is class warfare. The goal of many state level decision makers is ensuring poor people stay scared and too busy to unionize against the capital owners who finance the decision makers' campaigns.

[–] sunglocto@lemmy.zip -1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Must be a US problen since I'm black and I have 0 issues getting ID or passport

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Of course, all Europeans/everyone else just have passports.

America just haven't figured out that system yet.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago

This is a thread discussing a rule concerning the US.
If you live in another country, your experience regarding getting an ID is entirely irrelevant to this thread.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes. It is a US problem. US state agencies have been racist (as a way to hide being in open class warfare against the poor) from their inception. The country was built on invasion and slavery, and grew more progressive about human rights over time.

The US has been in a "pretend we fixed it all so we don't have to fix anything further" phase for decades now.

The current (class warfare strategy) is passing harsh laws that are difficult (occasionally impossible) to comply with, and then selectively enforcing them using skin color and wealth.

[–] socsa@piefed.social -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Most Americans don't

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

How much do you think a passport costs?

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