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I see your confusion, I just said FOSS and I should have said FOSS movement to be more clear. Double-checking myself shows that the FOSS orgs tend to be apolitical, so I should have instead said compatible with communist views.
You state that communism is all about forcing people, however communism is defined as a stateless classless society. How would you force people in such a situation?
IBM is most certainly capitalist, they just realized they could benefit from open source software once they fell behind MS. Being able to share development costs is still beneficial in a capitalist economy, even if you don't privately own the end product. Just like how sharing the cost of healthcare can be beneficial for the social welfare.
Communism in practice. Communism the theory is impossible. There's conflicts in society, what happens if a worker doesn't want to work in communism?
IBM was doing open source in 1952, 23 years before Microsoft was founded. You should really do some background research. To get you started, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_free_and_open-source_software
Since you didn't disagree, it sounds like we both agree that the FOSS movement is compatible with communist ideals.
Only the theory impacts the founding of the FOSS movement so communism in practice is irrelevant.
I've been talking about the FOSS movement this entire time, which dates to 1983. IBM only started interacting with the modern FOSS movement in a significant way in the 90s per https://www.ibm.com/opensource/story/
Why are the donors relevant? This is like arguing that Yugoslavia wasn't communist because they received foreign aid from the US.
"They sell support and other things" Most (all?) theories of communism don't have currency when they reach the communist stage but if you're trying to make a socialist structure work in capitalism it would look like free open source projects.