this post was submitted on 13 Feb 2025
200 points (97.2% liked)
World News
1101 readers
834 users here now
Rules:
Be a decent person, don't post hate.
Other Great Communities:
Rules
Be excellent to each other
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Gotta hand it to Trump here. I expected his comments to eventually undo the fragile peace that the Biden administration negotiated in its twilight days, but three weeks is impressively fast.
Don't forget that Israel has continued killing Palestinians and Lebanese during the ceasefire.
Bullshit. Trump told them to stop and they stopped because they hated Biden and wanted him to fail. That was very clear the entire time.
This... This is not stopping. He's going to complete the genocide.
Are we doing revisionist history now? Without Trump the ceasefire wouldn’t have happened, Biden made it clear that he wouldn’t force Israel to agree with it. And Israel would never agree with it on itself if Trump didn’t force them.
You're right in that Trump wanted the war to drag out to prevent a win by Biden. Some suspect that he actively worked against peace similar to what Reagan did to Carter
Trump wasnt even president yet when it happened buddy.
Trump’s guy Steve Witkoff was involved in the ceasefire negotiations.
https://apnews.com/article/gaza-ceasefire-trump-biden-israel-hamas-0e6c324ba0e3e9413bafe740fdefebc6
The article goes on to explain that the importance of Trump's guy was that he simply showed up, despite not contributing much of anything, which signified that Biden's deal would contribute under Trump.
It also notably mentions that Biden's plan was for the US to "govern" Gaza during reconstruction, which sounds a lot like what Trump is trying to say when he opens his moron mouth talking about the US "taking" Gaza.
I completely agree, that the negotiations and deal happened under the Biden administration’s leadership.
The question is why was this ceasefire deal reached, only days before Trump took office? I suspect it played a role. Trump‘s people had been in contact with the Israeli government before the transition of power. That said diplomatic processes are notoriously opaque.
I completely agree, that the negotiations and deal happened under the Biden administration’s leadership. Trump‘s understanding of the situation is limited, and he tries to exploit it according to his typical MO.
The question is why was this ceasefire deal reached, only days before Trump took office? I suspect it played a role. Trump‘s people had been in contact with the Israeli government before the transition of power. That said diplomatic processes are notoriously opaque.
Trump directly or indirectly communicated with Netanyahu to first promote this ceasefire, not questioning Israel spendings, providing a wider variety of weapons and now this. Waaay before that it's been claimed by some media that Gasa is set to become one large real estate development project run by israelis once palestinians get deported and their houses brought down. I am sure it all was on paper before Trump started phase one for how he'd look slapping dems with it and then he and his friends would join the grift, maybe open another casino.
Bibi gifted him a golden pager. Ceasefire wasn't a compromise involving Palestine in any way. It was a deal between two of them.
Revisionist history now includes pretending that the correct fascist but not in chief totally didn't prevent the cease fire in the first place for political purposes.
Yes, there was a fragile peace that Biden negotiated IN SPITE OF Der Furhur's efforts.
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/maureen-clare-murphy/qatar-announces-gaza-ceasefire-deal
Biden was never willing to put any pressure on Israel. With the US holding all the cards since they’re the primary funders of Israel’s war efforts, Biden had every opportunity to force a ceasefire before Trump did.
The idea that Trump had any power over Biden while Biden could just decide to stop sending weapons is extremely naive. It’s an attempt to dismiss democrat’s complicity in the genocide on the Palestinian people. We should never forget that both the democrats and the republicans are fully supportive of this horrific genocide.
You realize this supports my position too, when we're talking about trump preventing it through unofficial back channels, right? Trump did more so quickly because this was always the plan.
This is basically the Iranian hostage scandal playing out again.
It doesn’t support your position at all because I’ll repeat, Biden held all the cards when he was president. He could just threaten to stop sending weapons.
It's like talking to a brick wall with these Democrat fanboys, but I appreciate that you try!