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Opinions on Marijuana Legalization or on Cannabis in general? (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 2 years ago by ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml
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I can definitely understand peoples’ issues with it being consumed, especially in a political context, but how do yall feel about “weed”? I won’t hide my feelings, I am very much pro-weed, it’s not great that I started in my mid-teens but in my area it’s FAR from uncommon. I don’t smoke daily or anything, I’m not addicted to it (people say it’s non-habit forming but any drug can be addictive with enough frequent usage) but I do smoke and dab w/ friends often. That’s not why I believe in legalization tho, my main thing is you shouldn’t make a naturally occurring plant an illegal substance. I’d point to the DEA’s destructive (legal) burning of thousands of naturally occurring marijuana plants found in nature; This seems eco-fascist to me and to deny the uses of hemp as a production material seems dogmatic to me. The USSR used hemp for industrial purposes during the war and it helped in a major way. I’m sure most of us are familiar with the badge given for Hemp growers. If you have any criticisms, I’m more than open to it, but I feel that marijuana won’t be easy to get rid of in future society and would probably be put to use in different more productive ways.

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[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Weed isn't any more harmful than alcohol or tobacco which are legal pretty much everywhere. The harm that comes from policing weed far outweighs any actual benefit from doing so.

[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It's actually far less harmful cause those things will kill you, and cannabis can't.

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ya, I see alcohol as so much more harmful than weed, growing up with an alcoholic parent.

edit: Also the US government historically and still does use alcohol to wreck Indian communities.

[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago

Exactly! There’s a reason the movie “Leaving Las Vegas” didn’t feature Nicolas Cage smoking copious amounts of weed, it’s because that would just make you passout

[–] Nakaru@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

unless operating heavy machinery/driving while intoxicated obviously, and some respiratory if smoking combusted matter, but yea otherwise wont really kill you.

[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah by itself, you can't overdose on cannabis. There are other, much safer methods of consumption than combustion. I actually have a dry herb vaporizer myself.

[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago

I picked up a tinymight 2 not too long ago and a water pipe adapter for it. I love this thing and the best part is my lungs legitimately feel better now.

What are you running?

[–] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That first point could be a point to criminalize alcohol and tobacco and marijuana rather than legalize marijuana

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't see much value in doing that to be honest, and I don't think it would be possible to accomplish that to any meaningful effect in western culture.

[–] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Long term we should work against the consumptions of it but yeah, it wouldn’t work well by immediately banning it. I’m just saying those two existing wouldn’t inherently justify marijuana if someone is against those

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it's more of an argument that society generally functions fine with those two being legal, and since weed is arguably less dangerous there's no rational reason to ban it.

[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The idea that we shouldn't allow a substance to temporarily alter our state of mind with the possibility of permanently changing how we think about things really feels like internalized bourgeois ideology. Psychedelics do a pretty good job of lifting the veil of liberalism in my own experience.

[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I never saw the movie “They Live” but I hear that some people interpreted the glasses in the film to be like psychedelics, is that accurate? I have not done psychedelics or seen the movie lol so I have no clue

[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I didn't see it either. I just peeked at a YouTube clip and I would say it's way more subtle than that. I guess you could say the result is the same if the result is the realization that things may not be as they appear. I did get so high on mushrooms one time that many of my visual memories from that day are monochromatic.