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The Thunberg Effect: Why Some Australians Overheat At The Mere Mention Of Swedish Climate Activist - New Matilda (newmatilda.com)

submitted 2 years ago by Treevan@aussie.zone to c/environment@aussie.zone

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Thunberg is a Swedish resident who speaks English as a second language.

Many 2nd generation immigrants speak better English than 6th generation Australians.

These Australians are not jealous of Thunberg's speech-competence nor do they necessarily want to speak better than her, instead they have a deep-seated bias against people who speak too well.

Greta's accomplishment as an elite English speaker is amazing for someone born and raised speaking Swedish in a non-English-speaking country; even more-so that she probably hasn't spent a lifetime nurturing her English.

Most Australians don't speak clearly and many don't speak confidently or functionally and it's not only tradespeople who are impeded but also politicians, judges, air traffic controllers and doctors - it's across the board.

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[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Greta is a fine speaker, but this article proposes that the reaction to her is caused not by what she says but by how she says it? Ridiculous.

The author is a paid speaking coach, so it looks to me like there’s a conflict of interest here.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dude, aussies absolutely have a fucked up relation with how well spoken someone is.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Probably from British cunts trying to enforce their views on how others should speak on us for so long.

It’s basically a signifier that you’re some pretentious rich cunt who’s never worked a day in their lives yet gets everything.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

...that only works if you're so far up Britain's social arse you're oblivious to realities of Australia.

Australia's biggest entitled cuntrags speak not with rp, but strine. Gina the hutt is closest you'll get and even that's pure aussie

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And yet the throngs of snobs in the rich suburbs beg to differ.

Two rich mining scumbags does not a trend make.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the famed well-spokenness of morrison.

You're all over the place. Which is your cause, pompous british arseholes or affected snobs? 'Cos i gotta tell ya, as someone with unusually precise diction due chiefly to (free, government-paid for the disadvantaged) dental as a kid and a wide vocabulary due to reading everything i could get my hands on at the local (free) library, the idea that intellect and speech are something to deride and indicators of wealth is utter horseshit.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the strine-strucken dialect of Turnbull et al.

It's the same thing. The class bullshit of Britain gave root to still exists in contemporary Australia. You'll have to excuse my feeble intellect because I'm not privileged enough to be given free dental nor can I afford to pay for it, so maybe it's the constant pain I'm in or the teeth I've had to have pulled, but any Tom, Dick, or Harry should be capable of understanding the difference between simply using a wide vocabulary and these fucks but I suppose it's easier to seek offense over understanding.

[–] cobra89@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

Just going to point out, that you're the only one in this thread who sounds offended. You started with the offended tone, I don't think you get to play that card.

[–] Treevan@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're right.

It didn't make much sense to me, but it's content. Make of it as you will.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago

I will admit I enjoyed imagining Rowan Dean from Sky News raving about the quality of her enunciation.