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"Democracy is when I like the boot!" (infosec.pub)

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I’m not entirely sure there should be any voting age whatsoever. Yeah I don’t believe only citizens should vote. I find the concept of citizenship in general troubling . These are all arguments I would entertain seriously. The fact that you think they were too absurd to even mention shows how far apart we are.

Yeah. It does. If you think that any polity that doesn't allow children and non-citizens to vote isn't democracy, you're so far from seriousness that there's no point in continuing.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Still ducking and dodging it looks like. Not willing to say straight out what your definition is. But we already know what it is. Anyone reading this can see very clearly what you've outlined. They know that your view of democracy is so incredibly broad that it's absurd. That by your definition oligarchy is democracy. You don't want to say that cuz it sounds absurd but that's literally what all your statements add up to. It's okay. I like to think of democracy as pluralism, the rule of the people, and if all the people aren't participating or at least allowed to participate then it's clearly not a democracy it's not a rule of the people. You're more of the white land owning male sort of definition. Which I don't consider democracy. Cuz it's literally oligarchy. That's fine, just stop calling it democracy.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not willing to say straight out what your definition is.

I literally defined it, and you acknowledged it as tightly defined before reversing course.

Anyone reading this can see very clearly what you’ve outlined.

Yeah.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Yes you tightly defined it. Any system in which any number of people vote. That was your definition. Then you changed your mind again and said oligarchy is not democracy. That's why we're still here. You defined it then you blinked. The one who reversed course was you.