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DNC Moves to Oust David Hogg After He Says Party Isn’t Standing Up to Trump (truthout.org)

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The DNC cited a procedural concern, but Hogg said it is “impossible to ignore the broader context” of his criticisms.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 15 points 1 week ago (23 children)

But reality doesn't care about your feelings.

Yeah so... uh... That kinda goes both ways. I've made this argument before so I'm just gonna copy paste it, but lemme just...

Have you ever heard of gambler's ruin? It's the name of a few different results in statistics, but the one we want is this:

In statistics, gambler's ruin is the fact that a gambler playing a game with negative expected value will eventually go bankrupt, regardless of their betting system.

Now in modern US elections, does your bet have a positive or negative expected value for democracy? Is America becoming more or less of a democracy every election on average? Apply the theorem above to your answer and see what you get.

To change the inevitable result, which is fascism in the United States, you have to change the game in some way, and primarying incumbents and voting blue no matter who is what progressives are already doing.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

This exactly. I have voted for every progressive candidate that has come up on the ballot. And yet every single time the middle of the road Democrat wins. Because that's where the DNC puts the money. And in the general I always vote for whatever Democrat has won the primary. And quite frankly I always feel sick that I voted for somebody that I wouldn't vote for if I had a better choice.

So I think I'm going to choose not to vote in the general if the progressive I vote for doesn't win. I'm tired of a democratic party that is more interested in protecting their position than actually doing their job.

[–] Mister_Hangman@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly this. Stop giving the DNC money. Whenever you can send the message to the officials. No progressive platform and change? No removal of incumbents? No money. No vote.

It isn’t _just _ on us to do something. If they too don’t wanna see the fascists win, then it’s time for them to eat humble pie and realize their policies and their positions for the past 30-40 years brought this pig to prom. They have to pass the torch.

Fascism might be defeated again but it will come at the cost of neoliberalism finally dying as well. There’s very little options of anything else working.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Stop giving the DNC money.

Nobody here gives the DNC any money. I agree that would be stupid because there are much better choices. Most of us don't give much money to politicians and usually only to a specific candidate. But if I was going to right now, I would funnel that money thru people like Sanders or AOC or Hoggs.

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