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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You are going to casually equate the culpability of giving a client state unlimited bombs and diplomatic cover with buying a single product from a country as a consumer in another powerful peer trading partner… with a straight face?

I'm going to casually equate funding genocide with funding genocide, yes. Especially since it's far more likely that you've bought something made with Uyghur slave labor than it is that you've voted for more funding for Israeli genocidaires.

We are not discussing "Is the US more culpable, as a polity, for one than the other". The US is obviously more culpable in the ongoing genocide of Palestinians. We are discussing you, and what you object to, and, apparently, what genocides you think it is inappropriate even for others to object to.

Clearly I expect more from the citizens that reside in countries maintaining and materially supporting genocide.

So you wouldn’t criticize someone who supported or was indifferent to Palestinian genocide, but wasn’t from the US?

It's a simple question.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm going to casually equate funding genocide with funding genocide, yes. Especially since it's far more likely that you've bought something made with Uyghur slave labor than it is that you've voted for more funding for Israeli genocidaires.

I live inside a giant cancerous military complex which has focused its attention on the Palestinian Genocide not including that context here is wildly disengenous and I honestly am at a loss of how to respond.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I live inside a giant cancerous military complex which has focused its attention on the Palestinian Genocide not including that context here is wildly disengenous and I honestly am at a loss of how to respond.

Your excuse was, and I quote:

I have no control over China,

You established that the basis for you being positive about being vocal about Palestinian genocide, but overwhelmingly negative about being vocal about Uyghur genocide, was that one you, personally, could influence by your existence in a polity (the USA), and one you could not (China).

When confronted with the fact that you have, as an individual, probably more culpability with regards to funding the Uyghur genocide than the Palestinian genocide, you spit out some vague excuse about how addressing your argument on your argument's own terms is 'wildly disengenous[sic]'?

And again, you refuse to answer:

So you wouldn’t criticize someone who supported or was indifferent to Palestinian genocide, but wasn’t from the US?

It’s a simple question.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

You established that the basis for you being positive about being vocal about Palestinian genocide, but overwhelmingly negative about being vocal about Uyghur genocide, was that one you, personally, could influence by your existence in a polity (the USA), and one you could not (China).

It is a simple distinction, Israel is a client state and is militarily, economically and politically existentially reliant on the US, China is not and can easily evade US political pressure.

Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

but overwhelmingly negative about being vocal about Uyghur genocide,

I literally never said that.