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[–] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

There is no Italian race! Boarders are not ethnic groups, and by claiming they are you are generalizing the contents of those boarders.

That being said, sweeping generalizations are still wrong. However, your attitude in this whole comment chain has been abhorrent and it's surely not swinging anyone over to your viewpoint.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

So I can hate all French just because they are French and discriminate them without being racist?

[–] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Whether or not a generalizing bigot is a racist depends on more than that. Given the example, the chances are high. However, there is no French race and I find the calling of the entire population of France a single ethnic group a bit disgusting. So no, in isolation I would not call French-hate racism, but it still doesn't make it right. Just like calling someone a "piece of shit" on the internet.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

So you feel it wouldn't be right to hate on a whole population, but still can't call it racist unless individuals of said population share the ethnicity.

Which is equivalent to saying that if we were to mix all different populations we would defeat racism. We would then have a different kind of hate based on country of origin, culture, language or whatever and that wouldn't remotely sound like racism, right?

Wrong.

[–] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Nope. That doesn't sound like a reasonable comparison at all. Ancestral heritage and cultural affiliation are significant parts of the artificial social construct of "race". And no, I do not believe you can defeat racism by mixing everyone together until we all share the same appearance and background. If anything, I think truly defeating racism would be celebrating those differences, not covering them up.

To be honest though, I'm mostly just being pedant because of your language in the original comment. You make some good points, but nobody makes any ground when they start off by calling people names. I suspect most of the downvotes are the result of the same kind of thinking. ✌️