Funny, most people I've talked to said that the backend code usually is better structured and written, while the frontend (web and games) was a hot mess

[–] traches@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, that’s my experience. The backend is an environment you control completely and has well-defined inputs and outputs specifically designed to be handled by machines. Front end code changes on a whim, runs who the hell knows where, and has to look good doing it.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 2 points 2 hours ago

And, while tested to extreme limits, somehow the end user still finds ways to break it, creating more things haphazardly stuffed in

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 29 points 7 hours ago

Depends who's coding what. Since fullstack, ick, is the norm, backend coders forced to do frontend is the case that you've described. Frontend coders forced to do backend is the case in the comic.

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 17 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

My experience has often been that Business mostly cares about what they and their users can directly interact with (The FE) and don't really care about spending time and effort on the BE

[–] dumnezero@piefed.social 4 points 3 hours ago

The security and permission layers for the API:

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Management: "We're only going to hire 'full stack' devs from now on."

Also Management: "Why is this page taking 37 seconds to load?"

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm now a full-stack engineer. Instead of being ok at any layer, I don't know what I'm doing in the UI, the Service, the Backend, the Database, the Cloud Infrastructure, and the CI/CD.

But, if anything breaks, I almost always can figure out where it broke very quickly. A fix is always unpleasant though.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 hours ago

Yes, but that also means backend developers only have to worry about the code. Where I work, they always align on best practices across the company. While frontend is a mess of apps and frankensteined components.