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A fork/continuation of the original since the author has been away for a while. Supports kernels up to 6.15 with lots of other changes.

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[–] kadup@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

This isn't a Bluetooth adapter.

That's how little you know about the subject you're trying to rant about.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee -5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

What in the fuck are you even talking about?

PS5 is bluetooth, standard bluetooth, and wired uses both standard HID and standard usb audio, my point is: Why isn't MSFT?

Also, since you clearly don't know the first fucking thing you're talking about:

After 2016, when Bluetooth connectivity was introduced with the second controller revision (model 1708) alongside the Xbox One S, Microsoft rebranded its proprietary connection protocol as "Xbox Wireless".[10] Xbox Wireless uses the same frequency range as Bluetooth (2.40-2.48 GHz), but has a higher transmit power, improving range and input latency. Starting in 2017, Microsoft began working with third-party manufacturers to produce additional accessories using Xbox Wireless, with the first class being headsets.[11]

With a firmware update that began rolling out in September 2021, controllers with Bluetooth are able to pair with devices using both wireless protocols, allowing those controllers to switch connections by double-tapping the pairing button.[12]

Drivers were released in June 2014 to allow Xbox One controllers to be used over a USB connection on PCs running Windows 7 or later.[69] The Xbox One Wireless Adapter for Windows is a USB dongle that allows up to eight controllers to be used at once wirelessly.[70]

Look at how stupid broken this is! You need drivers to use it over standard USB!

Everything about this design is broken, it should be kicked out of the kernel and MSFT should release firmware that actually implements HID like normal, non-stupid people.

8bitdo has exactly this, same dongle system and pairing and again, it works perfectly without any drivers at all, because they're not morons.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We are talking about a driver for the Xbox One wireless adapter.

Microsoft never submitted a kernel driver for this, it's a third party module. It's not Bluetooth - it's WiFi, using a proprietary blob for authentication.

Not a single one of your claims in this entire thread have been correct.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee -1 points 2 weeks ago

It’s not Bluetooth - it’s WiFi, using a proprietary blob for authentication.

You've literally missed my whole point.

Playstation link is this exact same thing, and btw, both controllers are dual-mode bluetooth and "high-speed wireless interface", which is basically wifi or wifi-direct or some proprietary variant.

My point is, why isn't it like Playstation link which just presents as HID devices and usb-audio devices, without a driver at all? Same low-latency, they even do LDAC.

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