Could someone explain what this is for? I have an XSX wireless controller. I use it over BT with my Linux machines and it works out of the box with all games and the desktop. What functionality does this add?
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I was getting terrible and inconsistent input lag with an XSX controller. Something about it not correctly reporting its polling rate over BT. Switching to the dongle fixed it.
Glad yours works, but not everyone is so lucky.
If you use the wireless adapter this is required. I mainly use Linux but sometimes boot into Windows. Hence it’s easier to use the adapter and have it paired with the singular thing, than to re-pair it with Linux/Windows each switch.
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The fact that this made a patch message of any kind, MUCH less the announcement...
It should be in Bluetooth or HID, broken hardware that doesn't follow standards is nothing to be proud of.
Well people who own the official Xbox One wireless adapter will have to disagree since that requires firmware with an incompatible licence and won't get into the kernel. If you want to not use the poor Bluetooth on Xbone controllers or have an older controller that does not have Bluetooth you'll have to use this. Plus this release gives publicity to the project which the previous owner neglected since he went MIA twice.
It's trash hardware.
Xbone owners should be shaming ms into oblivion for making the kernel have to pollute itself with this garbage.
Note how ps5 controllers need 'power' (optional).
The wireless adapter functions extremely well and is no different than any Wi-Fi 2.4GHz dongle, in essence.
This driver also works really well.
I fail to see how two things working well together somehow results in your rant.
Because I've worked on hardware, and have drivers in the kernel.
It's trash hardware if you're duplicating the functionality of something else and not following the standards.
https://www.techspot.com/news/105268-linus-torvalds-fed-up-making-kernel-changes-address.html
Microsoft could do a firmware update to fix their worthless broken shit, Bluetooth is like 20 years old now, you'd think even a company with their heads that far up their asses could get it right by now. For the dongle, have it present hid.
They're just adding more trash drivers to the kernel we shouldnt need.to throw shit code for their shit drivers into the kernel repo everyone uses.
This isn't a Bluetooth adapter.
That's how little you know about the subject you're trying to rant about.
What in the fuck are you even talking about?
PS5 is bluetooth, standard bluetooth, and wired uses both standard HID and standard usb audio, my point is: Why isn't MSFT?
Also, since you clearly don't know the first fucking thing you're talking about:
After 2016, when Bluetooth connectivity was introduced with the second controller revision (model 1708) alongside the Xbox One S, Microsoft rebranded its proprietary connection protocol as "Xbox Wireless".[10] Xbox Wireless uses the same frequency range as Bluetooth (2.40-2.48 GHz), but has a higher transmit power, improving range and input latency. Starting in 2017, Microsoft began working with third-party manufacturers to produce additional accessories using Xbox Wireless, with the first class being headsets.[11]
With a firmware update that began rolling out in September 2021, controllers with Bluetooth are able to pair with devices using both wireless protocols, allowing those controllers to switch connections by double-tapping the pairing button.[12]
Drivers were released in June 2014 to allow Xbox One controllers to be used over a USB connection on PCs running Windows 7 or later.[69] The Xbox One Wireless Adapter for Windows is a USB dongle that allows up to eight controllers to be used at once wirelessly.[70]
Look at how stupid broken this is! You need drivers to use it over standard USB!
Everything about this design is broken, it should be kicked out of the kernel and MSFT should release firmware that actually implements HID like normal, non-stupid people.
8bitdo has exactly this, same dongle system and pairing and again, it works perfectly without any drivers at all, because they're not morons.
The 8bitdo version is easier to implement because it's one dongle per controller. The Xbox dongle supports eight controllers per dongle. This complicates things; I assume they didn't want to emulate an eight-port USB hub on the dongle.
You can use BT, but there's a reason 8bitdo has a dongle as well: BT has worse latency, I assume due to protocol overhead.
And at least Xbox controllers are cross-compatible. You can't use a DS4 on a PS5, even if you're playing a PS4 game.
We are talking about a driver for the Xbox One wireless adapter.
Microsoft never submitted a kernel driver for this, it's a third party module. It's not Bluetooth - it's WiFi, using a proprietary blob for authentication.
Not a single one of your claims in this entire thread have been correct.
Alright what drivers have you worked on?
A bunch, mostly networking but some sriov and arm64 and old mips64 stuff.
Enough to have been on the bad side of one of linus's rants.
This is shit engineering and msft should be shamed for it.
Microsoft could do a firmware update to fix their worthless broken shit, Bluetooth is like 20 years old now, you’d think even a company with their heads that far up their asses could get it right by now. For the dongle, have it present hid.
No one has done bluetooth right because you can't do bluetooth right here.
My ps5 by works perfectly, as did my ps4 pad.
Think the ps3 one was USB, but that's fine too.
Even the audio works out of the box.
I use my 8bitdo which is great too.
Everyone else can do this correctly, and when someone can't they should be shamed, like msft.
nether ps4 nor ps5 have working audio over bluetooth, and they also have high latency. PS5 controllers also don't support the enhanced rumble since it also uses audio. I don't use 8bitdo any more due to constant the enshitification of their hardware, but I doubt they support low latency with audio either.
You seem to be having a lot of problems here:
https://direct.playstation.com/en-us/buy-accessories/playstation-link-usb-adapter
Low latency, lossless audio, pretty sure rumble works.
And NO DRIVER outside of the standard USB hid and audio.
How is this hard to understand?
this is not bluetooth.
Neither is the xbone dongle, as you argued.
The difference is: The dongle uses all the normal standards, and doesn't need a kernel driver like the msft piece of shit.
no, I said;
No one has done bluetooth right because you can’t do bluetooth right here.
so you have me mistaken with someone else. Also, im not sure I appreciate why does it matter if a driver is in /hid or /input/joystick in this regard?
If you need a dedicated driver anyways, what is the difference between them?