MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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I use my own understandings of the media.
MBFC has never done anything to establish that they are reliable and have little rigor to their methods. There's no reason to accept their analysis as having value.
They do have methodology, though :c
Which means the clock is completely reset and they need to spend years establishing that this new methodology is actually effective. Until they have that there is only more reason to not utilize them as a source.
i don't think anything will convince you lol.
you don't gotta use it if you don't wanna! but i am curious what you think about the main topic at hand here, with tankies praising hamas and the massacres.
Why is the Financial Times of London seen as a high quality resource for finance and economics? Is it because lots of people use it or is it because they have over a century of high quality publication? It's the latter. MBFC has never had years upon years pf demonstrating they are a good resource and by resetting their methodology they have become momentarily less reliable.
I think the pro-Israel side thinks this was started on 10/7/23 and the pro-Palestinian side recognizes that the war started in the 1940s and has never at any point in time stopped.
The Onion headline is months before the attack but I think is the best version of how the conflict should be framed
"10 Palestinians Dead After Israeli Raid,’ Reads Headline That Could Have Run Any Week For Past 75 Years"
https://theonion.com/10-palestinians-dead-after-israeli-raid-reads-headli-1850145998/
I think you shouldn't make any blanket statements.
But you're skirting the question. You're ignoring the Tankies, Hamas and celebration of the massacres. That is the key topic here.
I think it is safe to make blanket statements and I believe the rest of my post makes my position clear.
I don’t think this post belongs here as this war isn’t as cut and dry as people would like and all sides are inherently dishonest regarding all aspects of the conflict.
No apologia