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Dems Hemorrhaged Support from All Demographics in 2024 — Including New Voters
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People aren't going to like what you're saying, but there's an element of uncomfortable truth. Money and establishment power didn't let the neocons beat back the tea party movement. I desperately want solid progressives, but the ones who appear on my local ballot are either obviously unfit or don't garner enough votes from a "moderate" electorate. And I live in a rabidly "blue" area.
There is a hearts and minds campaign that progressives have continuously failed at, and blaming democratic elites solely for this failure is no more accurate than Democrats blaming progressives for their losses. Politics in a democracy is coalition-building, and we're apparently all failing together.
Gonna continue to call bullshit here. The grassroots movement failing to gather momentum in the face of propaganda at the cost of the nation's future is not the same as the Democrats blaming a minority for their own failures. Not even a little bit, can you please reflect a little on how absurd that claim is?
You're also not comparing apples to apples here. First: the Tea Party was an unknown element, there hadn't been a growing fringe movement like that within a major party for a century. The Democrats had the benefit of seeing that happen on the right. Second, the Republicans were willing to embrace the crazy of the Tea Party for the sake of their continuing victory. Very much in contrast, the Democrats are very clearly willing to sacrifice national victory in order to keep progressives down. Three elections in a row they've insisted on running the most centrist candidate possible, resulting two very predictable losses and one surprising victory.
Democrats insist on siding with money and corporations every time, their failures are their own fault, and very much also the fault of their supporters.
Are you with Democrats or not? You act like it's some shadowy cabal. People just go vote in a primary. Progressives don't win. And my main point is- Republicans voted in the primary for their far most right candidate but still voted Republican in the general. They trained the party to move to the right, like a dog.
Progressives either 1) aren't numerous enough to do anything like that or 2) get upset and either never vote in the primary or sit out both the primary and general when their preferred person doesn't make it.
Again, either way theyre irrelevant. This is the uncomfortable truth the op is talking about. Like Bernie and Aoc are popular yes? Holding rallies that get a lot of support? Then where are the rest of progressives?
I am left of the Democrats, and do not feel represented by what they do (regardless of what they say). I vote in Democratic primaries to try to move the party left. I vote D in the general. But you continue to dismiss what I'm saying. You seem to agree that the Republicans trained their party to move to the right but act like it's some crazy idea that the Democrats are doing the same thing? The wrong side is winning within the Democratic Party, and we're all going to lose everything because of it.
I'm not saying they're a shadowy cabal. They're very openly anti-progressive, no shadows necessary. They spend so much of primary time shitting on progressives and then complain when progressives don't want to vote for their neoliberal hacks in the general.
If you're taking the "progressives are irrelevant" position, please make sure to never blame progressives for the losses of the Democrats. Not even nonvoters. If we're not important enough to justify catering to, then we're not important enough to blame. You don't get to eat our cake and shit in it too.
Im only blaming people who either 1) don't exist because they aren't progressive or 2) don't vote.
It's pretty simple. And if youre of the opinion that progressives can't swing the election for the Democrats then youre of the opinion that theyre so insignificant that they couldn't ever tilt the Democratic party anyway.