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The rise of doomers, preppers, and antinatalists on the Left reveals something deeper than the hollow posture of rebellion: a collapse of belief in tomorrow. A Left that chants “No future” isn’t just demoralized — it’s unserious, misanthropic, and bound to lose.

Tldr: How do you inspire people to work for a better tomorrow if you don't believe tomorrow can be better? Trump and the American right have a vision of a future America that they claim will be great and glorious. The American left - and the global left - have lost sight of the future entirely. Instead of promising a bright future, they merely seek to endure the crises of the present - and some on the left have given up even that.

The article speaks to the desperate need for hope - for a clear, compelling, leftist vision of the future to serve as a guiding light for left-wing activists and politicians.

And hey, what political slash environmental slash aesthetic movement focused on a hopeful future just got its instance back up?

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[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (23 children)

People really believe this thinly veiled eugenics argument?

There is plenty of resources to support humanity. The issue is solely in our societal structures and our distribution of those resources causing almost half of everything we produce to become waste because it profit couldn't be extracted from it.

We could cut most of our production, reducing our environmental harm, redesign our cities so they are not sprawling wastelands of parking lots and empty lawns, and there would be plenty enough to go around. That's real long term planning we need to have.

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

There is plenty of resources to support humanity.

I cannot say I agree, and I think I recall that some indicators currently suggest we'd need about 3 planets to keep going at the same pace.

I think we shouldn't use up every atom on Earth to churn out more humans. Our species has experienced a massive population explosion and is at peak numbers.

Usually this kind of events are followed by a hurtful population crash. It seems considerably better if growth ends due to a (subconscious?) decision to stop expanding, rather than a war for remaining resources.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I think we shouldn't use up every atom on Earth to churn out more humans.

Good thing no one said to do this. I don't appreciate bad faith reframing of my argument.

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It was meant to be humorous framing, given the impossibility of making humans from magma or the iron core. :)

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

From my perspective it is a disingenuous, bad faith framing of my position meant to exaggerate it and mock it as if it was absurd.

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