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There's a few things you can do to help with raiding:
Thank you Lezcubus for the feedback. I should have added that I play primarily on my LegionGo, so it’s all controller based. I attached a screenshot of how my HUD looks like.
I was thinking of centering the information closer to the screen but then I struggle that the beauty of the game is being covered by the HUD. I guess I need to find a balance in between.
Yeah, spell effects are full for myself and minimal for everyone else. I’ll give it a try to just turn everyone else’s off. I need to dig into macros more, just difficult with limited buttons. I have a bunch (mainly social) on my other bars.
I think the biggest learning curve is learning the cadence of the bard. I end up button smashing when I’m also trying to dodge attacks.
Appreciate the feedback!
I’ve been replaying as Bard since I got my Steam Deck so there’s been a few things that are handheld (or SD) specific, so you might need to find the equivalent for your LegionGo.
What you have doesn’t look that bad, but here recommendations and ideas based on your screenshot above.
I’d say a lot of the issues your having are going to go as you become more accustomed to the game and learn the fights, gain more situational awareness, and so on.
Update on this, I tried it out and loved it. However, could not keep it as how my hand placement is on the Legion Go, I keep accidentally pressing the trackpad and activating mid battle. Can’t change the sensitivity jet, when I do change in SteamOS, nothing changes. Might be worked out in future versions. Great advice though for anyone who has a Steam Deck!
How do you set that up? What is the purpose for it? I saw a rotate hot bar key binding, but it did nothing for me. Maybe I need to revise my hot bar settings to make it work. I do have my L4 to cycle target, L5 to cycle enmity list, and my R4 to target focus. The R5 on the LegionGo has a weird placement, so I bound the remove HUD for screenshots.
That’s an interesting use, I use the trackpad for the mouse. Granted with SteamOS on my LegionGo, I don’t need that anymore. I’ll have to look it up because that would free up some space, or even use if to open menus likes duty finder, etc.
So I have noticed, I might replace with activating limit break.
Thanks for the advice, I have been using this https://www.xivbars.com/job/BRD/6188, but a bit modified.
So I switch to my AOE using the right bumper, and LT - RT and RT - LT, are identical copies of personal buffs or enemy buffs. This way I don’t have to remember what combo to press since my brain sucks at multitasking. How do you keep up with then musical songs are ready if they are hidden away (at least the defensive songs). Maybe I’m visualizing it wrong.
It’s so pretty and cool looking though! I tried and then it got lost from my view. I’ll try again!
Thanks for all the feedback, I have adopted some of these for my new setup. See image. I have the select target much bigger in the middle now, but also added the focus target above the enmity list, that let’s me target back with R4.
I forgot the name for it when I first wrote that, but it's Button Chords in Steam controller layouts. The idea is that you have a button act as a different one when you have a modifier pressed. So if I use a single button for example, due to my mapping, while I have
L4
pressed,A
will act asDown
on the D-Pad. This is useful because it allows me to continually move and still use all my abilities. Without this in place I'd have to remove my thumb from the left stick to use actions applied to the D-Pad, causing me to stop moving. Now I can move and use my D-Pad actions without any stopping. Even more useful when there's large pulls in dungeons or I am dodging AOE but wanting to keep DPS going.I see. I'm still not fully complete with all my abilities yet but this is what I have so far for mine with a few extras.
This is 100% life changing, it has made it so much easier to execute the D-Pad slots. Thank you so freaking much!
Depending on the roles you play, you may want to stick to minimal for your party, since there are some party effects that are nice to be able to see. And I think no matter which role you play it's nice to be able to see stuff like healer circles.
Macros are generally not recommended for combat purposes, as you'll get timing issues and registration issues. The one exception is Holmgang, where it's useful to have a very stupid-looking macro to target oneself so it doesn't fall off early.
Controller shouldn't be an issue here. Some statements and recommendations:
Finally, a lot of it really comes down to just personal experience, both with the job, the fights, and with the game. You'll internalize the timing more, and you can train yourself towards just glancing at the timers. And if you pick up more jobs and organize abilities according to some pattern, your muscle memory will mostly keep working.
Noted, I learned that the hard way. I was wondering where healing circles went. Minimal seems to be working fine, now that I pushed a lot more of the HUD to focus on what’s important for a DPS
Thanks for that insight, I saw some videos of players showing their macros and it kinda went over my head.
That makes sense. I have LT and RT to H1. LT-RT or RT-LT to H2, and RB to H3. Then H3, which holds a lot of daily used menus or chat macros are assigned to H4 which requires the RB+X. I do have RT/LT showing the same thing so I don’t have to remember what combo, but now I see your comment about amount of spells for level 100. So I might need to reconsider.
Essentially I use a modified version of https://www.xivbars.com/job/BRD/6188
Do you have a possible layout like this to share?
Hmm, I use the double tab but only half of it, to allow for more space. I found having the full cross was too cluttered for my taste. I assume there are not some spells that can be ignored. Example of my setup below.
This is extremely valuable advice, thank you so much. I’m going to have to rethink my controller setup now, especially if I ever play a different class.
It's just if you use it for your main combat abilities. If you use it for extras you'll be fine and could even likely not having it showing all the time at all. I've been keeping mine on full display all the time and after this discussion I think I'll turn it default-invisible.
I kinda messed up my config and had to recreate it from memory and haven't really had a chance to test it with all jobs yet, but I can show off the general idea. Don't think too much about the utility buttons, e.g. the hunting log is just there because I've been leveling a job from level 1 (archer!), that'll be replaced with the compass when that's relevant, etc. The utility buttons are actually on set 8, I'm just too lazy to switch to it.
Top layers
SMN
(sleep and physick are just there because I have room left over)
WAR
DRK
Lower layers
This is the same as what I've copied to the lower two button bars, in a left-top-bottom-right order.
SMN
WAR
DRK
It looks a bit better without the wxhb on:
There are some things I figure I should change, e.g. make surecast and arm's length be in the same position.
But the similarities generally work: all the healers and the two casters with raise I can do L2>R2 down up to do a swiftcast+raise, the motion is always the same.
Sometimes I find stuff that could be more systematic, like moving ~~surecast~~ Arm's length, and mess up my muscle memory for a while. But I think the general rule should be to make some rules that make intuitive sense to you, and try to follow those. You'll get it wrong from time to time, either not following a rule, or discovering that the rule was a bad idea.
I took this to heart today and played around with different layouts and found one I loved, in unison with the button chord. Essentially all spells that are being used frequently are now always visible for easy access. The rest are a quick LT to RT or RT to LT away. Thanks! The non essentials are on a separate hot bar and I can switch real quick with the right bumper.
Thank you so much for the images. So is the lower hot bar to identify when cooldowns are complete?
Yep, that's the idea. I haven't had it set up for a long while, so I don't really know how well it works and if I should just have the OGCD stuff showing.
I used to have a pretty similar thing off to the side, but it was kind of … annoying for how I had to use my eyes, and cluttered up the screen more.