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Many Democrats continue to believe that the racism of average Americans — many of whom voted for Barack Obama twice — explains why Donald Trump won. This moralism suits party elites who would rather demonize the public than address growing inequality.

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[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So if Trump wasn't the candidate that trump is, he wouldn't have won? I mean he was Trump tho.

[–] UsernameHere@lemy.lol -3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Trump has been trying to become president since 2000 and he has been talking about it since the 80s. It wasn’t until Russia got involved with their propaganda machine that he was able to start his cult.

Without Russian support he wouldn’t be anybody.

[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But he had Russian backing, he was on the apprentice, all those things are true. So if they weren't true he wouldn't be who he is. It's a bit like saying JK Rowling wouldn't be famous without Harry Potter. Like... duh.

[–] UsernameHere@lemy.lol -2 points 1 week ago

So if Trump wasn't the candidate that trump is, he wouldn't have won? I mean he was Trump tho.

This statement indicates you think Trump won because of who he is.

My statement points out it is not because of who he is but instead because Russia chose to interfere in elections.

In other words, if Trump dies today, Russia would find another person to fill his place and would use the same propaganda tactics to help get them into a position of power.

This is because Trump is a puppet. Your comment was evidence you don’t understand that that is why he won.