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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Sneq@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (11 children)
[–] millie@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

Your own link shows a change in pattern from ups and downs from year to year with larger patterns of rising and falling to an extremely recent upward trend in which every year is hotter than the last. We're looking at a level of heating on the scale of decades to centuries that would normally be seen over millions of years. And humans didn't show up during those hot periods, we showed up during the cooler period. Sure, there may very well still be life on the planet after we're done, assuming we don't acidify the oceans and we figure out how to dial down the rampant pollution after pushing ourselves into a kind of climate not seen for 35 million years, but will humans be able to live in that environment? Quite possibly not.

Looking at the wider picture doesn't show that there's no issue, it shows that there's a critical issue and we're screwing with extremely long-term trends that constitute the conditions we evolved under.

[–] Sneq@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (9 children)

You are right, but also humans exists a bit longer than 150 years. So why limit it to just this short period? To make an impression that somehow we are heating up the planet? It’s just a natural cycle. If we survive it, or how long, is another thing

[–] millie@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We absolutely are heating up the planet. Look at the curve on that graph and look at the time scales. That exact graph demonstrates that this is completely unprecedented.

[–] Sneq@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

on the scale from my link a million years is like maybe a pixel, so are you sure there were no short periods (50-100 years) when temperature changed rapidly?

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