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[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wonder if there's a term for these kind of 'unintended' consequences to reckless foreign subterfuge

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Was it too difficult for you to read the meme? Does it need to be rephrased in simpler terms for you to understand?

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can't say for sure but I think you've mistaken me for someone else.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can’t say for sure but I think you’ve mistaken me for someone else.

For... pointing out that your comment is in direct contradiction to the fact stated in the meme, the only thing stated by the meme, the purpose of the meme, which is hard to miss without failing to read the meme entirely?

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are we taking about the same comment here? Where did I contradict you?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wonder if there’s a term for these kind of ‘unintended’ consequences to reckless foreign subterfuge

Unless your implication is that there was 'unintended' consequences by the reckless foreign subterfuge of Pakistan - which would be deeply questionable, considering that the Taliban did and has offered them since nearly all their desired policy goals from supporting it.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well that wouldn't make any sense at all - blowback isn't a description of something you wanted to have happen that you didn't expect, it's a description of something you didn't want to happen that you didn't expect

Like the militant extremists you supported fracturing into new adversarial militants that fuck your shit up later.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well that wouldn’t make any sense at all - blowback isn’t a description of something you wanted to have happen that you didn’t expect, it’s a description of something you didn’t want to happen that you didn’t expect

Yes, which is why it would be a ridiculous term to apply here.

Like the militant extremists you supported fracturing into new adversarial militants that fuck your shit up later.

Again, where did this happen? And to whom? And what relevance does it have to the meme?

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

where did this happen? And to whom? And what relevance does it have to the meme?

The first Taliban leaders were former Mujaheddin militiamen.... the same mujaheddin that were backed by the US against the Soviets

Yes, the Taliban are different from the group the US backed in the 80s, but only because they specifically split from those anti-soviet militias against the factional war-lords who had taken power in the chaos of the second civil war.

I think it's a little weird to be passionately dismissing the US's role in setting the stage for the taliban, though. I didn't think I was disagreeing with the meme, but it does seem like you really don't like the implication that the US bears some responsibility for what happened in Afghanistan after the Soviets withdrew.