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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)
  1. We didn’t really have a democratic choice

You had "NOT TRUMP", a former prosecutor with a firm grasp of the law and the progressive half of Biden/Harris. .. who was also Not Trump. If you wanted to ensure Trump didn't get in , the box was right there.

They just needed to vote "not Trump". How fucking hard is that?

Man, this gets hard to repeat so many times.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

"B-but she's a woman!"

[–] AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey love, calm down. I was referring to gerrymandering and vote suppression not the inability to vote for the lesser evil.

I did vote and in fact a surprising number of my peers voted blue despite the fact they typically hard line republican. It made no difference because our state is an all or nothing state, so as long as you can gerrymander well enough around cities and convince rural areas to vote red out of fear, ta da the red party gets all the marbles as if the entire state voted unanimously.

That’s what I meant by not having democracy.

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I was referring to gerrymandering

For the 273645234th time, gerrymandering does not play a part in a presidential election. Voter suppression, sure. Gerrymandering affects congressional elections.

[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, which is why Texas was able to push so many republicans through into congress when votes show that it wasn’t so stark.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

Agreeing with the main statement here, but there are knock on effects to gerrymandering. Higher races get fewer votes from places where the elections aren't competitive. With few competitive races there's less benefit to voting, so marginal voters stay home. That's why a motivating ballot question is considered a political benefit.

And gerrymandered states can also give the impression that state level results are a foregone conclusion as well. With the electoral college, where the number of votes on the losing side don't matter, living under a red trifecta creates an impression that the state itself will never flip.

It really gets hard to repeat to you people that voting against someone is how we got trump in the first place. And you want to do more of that?