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[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Please elaborate what in my text gave you such an impression.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Please elaborate what in my text gave you such an impression.

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Are we supposed to be very very horrified that 9 innocent people died in a plane crash?

Yes oh my God some of them were children

So, of course at least 5 %, possibly almost 10 % of Russian civilians are innocent, but out of the 44 adults that died, that is statistically about 2 to 4 people in the whole plane, plus the five children.

Of course the statistically average Russian isn't completely blameless for supporting the Russia-Ukraine war, but that doesn't mean they deserve to die in a plane crash!


Like the entire argument you're making and the fact that you're making it to argue against what I previously is what gave me the impression that your empathy is conditioned on where someone comes from.

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

I see you simply skimmed through my comment and commented without actually reading it.

Yes oh my god some of them were children

As I said in my comment, that is a horrible thing. Please read the comment and then reply again. It is ridiculed that you just randomly accuse people of being heartless without bothering to read what they actually think about the matter.

Also, you can be sad without being very very horrified. Those children were brought to death by their own parents. Why would that not feel bad?

that doesn't mean they deserve to die in a plane crash!

True. I completely agree with you regarding this. As I wrote in that comment. Please, just read it. If somebody is robbing a bank and gets shot in the process, that is a bad thing, because it's a dead human. A bank robber does not deserve death, because nobody deserves death. But, I won't expressly explain that I'm very sad about a robber dying, because the robbery does decrease my sadness. And even if the robber also kills their own child during the robbery, it of course makes me angry at that horrible parent, and sad about a child dying, but it doesn't make me actively write that I'm angry and sad. Because there are other thingsore relevant about the event.

Arguing against a really bad argument does not make the arguer's "empathy is conditioned on where somebody comes from."

If you now read my comment, you will notice that I'm saying my empathy is conditioned on what somebody has done. (And, to clarify: absolutely regardless of where they are from! It tells a lot about you that you even end up assuming it might be because of where that someone is from! That looks a lot like projecting.)

Furthermore: how have you successfully managed to completely skip the connection to the extreme suffering in Ukrainian homes? Based on you apparently projecting there, it's hard to not notice how you're voicing your compete apathy to the death and suffering of innocent civilians in the terror attacks the Russia is now committing on an almost hourly basis.