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[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 91 points 6 days ago (65 children)

Yeah but DLS would be a significant downgrade for many people, who already fight the suggestion to only eat meat six days a week tooth and nail.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6013539/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10537420/

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/suppl/10.1021/acs.est.3c03957/suppl_file/es3c03957_si_001.pdf

Things that count as DLS:

  • 10 m² of personal living space + 20 m² for every 4 ppl as bathroom / kitchen
  • 2100 kcal/day
  • 1400 kWh/year, but this already includes public services (education/healthcare)
  • 1 washing machine per 20 ppl
  • 2.4 kg clothing / year
  • wear tops for three days and bottoms for 15 days without washing
  • 1 laptop per 4 people with a yearly power consumption of 62 kWh. (bizzarely they talk about an 800 MHz computer and seem to confuse HDD and RAM). If your gaming computer used 400 W you could use it for 150 hr/year.
[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 6 days ago (15 children)

A simpler solution is to simply abolish wealth hoarding, impose sensible consumption limits (so, no cars or commercial plane travel, no meat, no 800 watt gaming rigs), and continue to encourage population decline. Boom, everyone is healthy, the air is clean, and you can keep your house.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 days ago (13 children)

that's how you start a civil war. lots of people will rebel against oppression

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I wonder if they think the down votes make your statement less true.

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