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[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ok but

people insist on buying and driving cars

because of

oil industry lobbyists ... making cities more car-centric

I hear you when you say

look how much of a stink suburbanites raise any time a city wants to get rid of some car lanes to put in a bike lane. Look at the fury when cities introduce congestion pricing

However, it's important to understand that those people are absolute donuts, and their complaints should not be taken seriously or reflect on the rest of us.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I just think that "the rest of us" includes a lot of people who drive daily, but still like to blame oil companies.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We blame oil companies because, as you yourself said (see my previous comment where I quoted you), the oil companies are to blame.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, people's lifestyles are to blame. Oil companies meet the demand. They partially shape people's behaviour, but people still have choices, and most westerners choose to destroy the environment and blame the oil companies.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ok so I'm confused, were you just lying when you said oil companies are to blame?

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, I meant what I said, go re-read it again, you seem to have missed the point.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If I've missed your point, it's because you haven't made it very clear. It's obvious I read your comment, my reply to it was almost entirely quotes from it.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

I think you're intentionally misreading it because it was pretty obvious:

Sure, oil companies use lobbying which influences people and policy. But, ultimately people make their own choices and most of the time they choose the convenient option which destroys the planet. But, they get to blame the oil company, not their own decisions.