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[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (6 children)
[–] kebabslob@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

She's always been lib, sadly. I still love her content tho! But her political takes are def a little ehh

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Yeah, I like have a soft spot for her because she helped show me that there was actually a left beyond voting for labour every now and again, and like she was the only trans rep young me really had, but like her politics are cringe af - abby-exasperation is way cooler imo

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

contra's godawful takes on NB people / gender in general + her tendency to triple down when criticized really soured me on her content. it took all the fun out of the theater for me.

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I think I could stand her if she would just admit that she was wrong for once, about any of it

[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

what did she say about nonbinary people? :(

[–] Cattypat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago

Nothing to my knowledge, she has a few videos defending nonbinary identities and rejecting people insisting it's one or the other. I have no idea where the takes in this comment section are even coming from

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

PT makes good videos, but she is closer to contra than can be coincidental. I mean, what are the odds of two trans women making leftist (at least at one point) political video essays in an overly theatrical style with old english letters as pen names.

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah they're friends and they used to help each other with the video production, I'm just saying that Abbie has wayyyy better politics than contra does (and her videos are better to - also she's a fellow trans person enduring the hellscape that is TERF island with me so that endears me to her)

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

They used to be freinds. They had some sort of falling out though. Although her politics are better than contra's

[–] rubpoll@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

In other words - PT is Contrapoints, but it's good instead of whiny liberal asslicking.

[–] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is just pitting trans people against each other for no reason. PT were less theatrical before they came out, but acting like a theater kid in your video editing choices isn't exclusive to any one YouTuber.

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was just comparing them since they're decently close friends, they're in the same niche and go for basically the same audience, and do things in the same style, it seemed like a pretty natural comparison to me

[–] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I understand, your comparison was fine. The person responding to you makes it sound like PT is ripping off Contrapoints though. Comparing their ideas, their production value and choices is fine, they do exist in a similar space, but there's nothing wrong with PT existing in a similar space. Straight white men are allowed to coexist with identical videos on YouTube. But someone in a marginalized group? Their channels are constantly pitted against each other.

Vaush/Xanderhal, Asmongold/Penguinz0 are all allowed to be successful even though they pretty much make the same videos and stream clips on the same topics. But for some reason creators from marginalized groups can't have similar tastes and ideas.

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty sure the person you were responding to is also trans like me and presumably you

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

Could you please correct the misgendering in your post? PT uses she/her pronouns exclusively.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

I think it's a joke - it's an absurd comparison so I don't think it's meant to be taken seriously

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

If I had a nickel for every time it happened I've have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

[–] rephlekt2718@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate? Love her content, wonder if I’m missing anything about her I’m not aware of.

[–] kebabslob@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, basically she has in the past talked about how she admires leftists and I don't think she isn't one, but that she thinks leftist ideas come from envy of people who are more fortunate, and that leftist ideas are bad cuz they're ant-consumer. Admittedly tho its been a long time since I remember her talking about politics and my memory isnt the best but those are things I think I remember... Try the 'envy' video

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago

She went fully lib like two or three years ago and has not had even a trace of being a socialist since.

[–] NoGodsNoMasters@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

Going? I think the least lib she ever got was making two videos about capitalism being bad and then concluding it with this statement:

You know maybe we should do something in the meantime. Uhh so I dunno, I guess vote Labour, tweet radically, try to eat more vegetables, uhh… Try not to be manipulated into waging war against other downtrodden people, and can we please not hand more power to the absolute worst dingbats our society has on offer.