Antiwork
Date Created: June 21, 2023
This community supports labor, with an aspiration for it to cease to be required to live our lives. Members of this community want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and/or want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.
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Essential Reads
Start here! Some of the more talked-about essays on the topic.
- The Abolition of Work by Bob Black (1985) | listen
- On the Phenomenon of Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber (2013) | listen
- In Praise of Idleness by Bertrand Russell (1932) | listen
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The article is mixing two different concepts one sucks one doesn't.
Mixing both of these types of training/education paths in one article equating them as parts of the same thing is a bad thing. Employer reimbursed college tuition is one of the few ways that many students are able to obtain higher education without taking on burdensome student loans.
Aye, let's add another good one in the mix, pensions! Good ol' Golden Handcuffs. Its like companies have been trying for years to see what's the bare minimum we're willing to accept.
This is one of the reasons why job hopping in this day and age is a thing, and people in ~~right to work states~~ at-will states bounce with no notice. A pension was something that gave an employee an incentive to be loyal to the company and have a vested interest in seeing the company succeed. Lately employers are barely matching 401K/Roth contributions if they even do it at all. Employer sponsored medical coverage is another form of golden handcuffs if the coverage is comprehensive and low cost for the employee.
I know I can get paid 20K more doing what I do in private industry, but my state job gives me insurance without a deductible that I pay $12 a month for, plus eligibility for a pension after 5 years of work, plus 4 weeks of vacation in a year. (With the health insurance I trade back 8 days of vacation time for a $110 discount on the premium.) Every time I think about making more money, all of those other perks make me decide I would rather keep the lower paying job I have. When I crunch the numbers of what my vacation time would be worth, plus the full COBRA price for my insurance premium, those benefits are already worth more than 20K. I don't feel trapped, because I like my work and boss, but I can see how other people might make the choice to keep a job they hate when the benefits are amazing or better than what the current job market offers.
You probably mean At-Will states, which is all but one of them. Right to Work is an anti union thing.
Thank you for the clarity on that. I forgot that right to work means you can't be compelled to join a union when your workplace is unionized.
With how most companies treat pensions these days, I prefer a 401k. I'd love for them to be the pensions of 100 years ago with stable long-lived companies that could be depended upon, but we don't have that anymore. A single PE firm buying out your employer could raid the pension fund, or sell off the valuable parts of the company, leaving the smoldering husk of a company unable to fulfill is pension obligations. You may only get a small fraction of your expected pension payout in these cases when the company or the pension becomes nonviable. Thats what pension can look like today.
For all its faults, a 401k is yours, and goes with you. If (and I know this is a big "if") a 401k account holder doesn't make some really poor choices, a 401k and its owner's contributions over the years can provide some of the best retirement savings for workers in the USA today.
In the case with new graduate nurses their key training is done at their first job. It’s a bit more in line with apprentice to journeyman training than any other example I can think of. Training in which they have to make journeyman before they can work on their own.
The training is required, for everyone’s safety. Charging nurses for it via TRAP is new. Given the predatory nature of hospitals regarding employees it will likely become the status quo now, all the way to SCOTUS.
Nurses fresh out of school are are often massively underpaid, given shit hours, and unprepared for the realities of the job.
The turnover is mysteriously extremely high. This smells of some bullshit attempts at employee retention by force rather than fixing their broken system.
I agree with this point. My org has tuition reimbursement. The caveat are you have to have worked at least part time with the organization for a year before you are eligible, you pay for the class upfront with a max reimbursement of $1000 per semester, you take classes from an accredited college that confers degrees, you stay employed while you take the class, you pass the class with a C, and you are still employed with the org when you get reimbursed. We have lots of young people that already have an associates or bachelors degree working for us, and I like to show them this program as a path for slowly working towards a more advanced degree. Once you get the reimbursement each semester, there is no obligation to keep working for the organization. It's a perk we give employees that can sometimes benefit the employer.
Employers should pay for training full stop and that used to be how it was. This idea that you need to learn what you are doing outside the company first or that you should be responsible for your training has only been a thing for about 35 years.
100% agree with you. That's what college degrees were for, specialized education in a specific area of interest so you could enter the work force with minimal training, and we already pay out the nose for them in the USA. The article uses nursing jobs as an example. RNs in the USA get a bachelor's which mandates on the job training to get the degree, and pass a licensing exam. The notion that a hospital has to do that much more additional training outside of the software they use for charting, pharmacy orders and communications is laughable.