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A new EU law will require all mobile devices to have user-replaceable batteries by 2027. In this episode we take a look at the law, it's consequences and right to repair.

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[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 15 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I think it was apple, but someone claimed that removable batteries would make the phones thicker and more expensive to make.

Maybe it would make them thicker, but the phones didn’t get any cheaper with the removal of the headphone jack. I don’t need top tier cameras, so let’s meet in the middle.

Also, how much thinner do phones need to be? They are already so thin they don’t even advertise that as a selling point anymore.

[–] wave_walnut@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I want a reasonably thin and light smartphone, not one that is paper thin and light as air. If manufacturers want to boast of their technological prowess, they should enhance their technology to solve environmental problems rather than thinness and lightness.

[–] Ferk@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

These days some phones are so thin they are even awkward to hold... specially when they have the rounded display around the edges, sometimes I press the touchscreen edges by mistake when holding it. And thin profiles make the cameras stick out, exposing them to damage.

I always end up buying a thick & rugged case anyway.. the thinness even makes me afraid it'll snap/crash easily. I never understood the thin obsession.. I actually was ok with the size of the thick nokia phones from the 90s.

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago

Totally agree, I have an xr which is on the thicker side of iPhones and I love it. I never once thought that it should be thinner or lighter.

I regularly think about the battery as it hardly lasts a day. In fact it will need to be charged in the evening for sure.

[–] CrystalEYE@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@worfamerryman "We want to have thin phones" is no longer a valid argument manufacturers can come up with when the cameras keep sticking out so much, in my opinion at least.

@wave_walnut

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

Great point! My current case is just thick enough to make the camera sit flush with the back, so I hardly think about it.

[–] FJW@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

The question is which idiot in the press (or anywhere else for that matter) decided that it was acceptable to measure the thickness of a phone in any other way than as the minimum distance between two parallel planes such that the phone fits between them?

[–] SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use a cover anyway because cracked glass isn't the look I go for, and use that cover to hold my cards. A millimeter less is something I won't notice.

They even sell extra durable phones with extra padding.

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

My screens crack is on the curved part of the display where the cover would “cover” the screen.

Im assuming your talking about a screen protector.

[–] mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"I think it was apple, but someone claimed that removable batteries would make the phones thicker and more expensive to make." - say goodbye to IP67 rating.

[–] MiscreantMouse@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Destragras@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

There was also their Xcover 4 with a IP68 rating, removable battery and headphone jack. That phone was more designed for commercial purposes though, putting ruggedness first.

[–] mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

in that case, let's hope apple - and anyone else who plans to sell on the eu market - will make something like that happen again without compromising other aspects of the phone (design).

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Why? Can that really not be engineered around? We have removable sim trays.