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    Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls β€œthe plateau of sustainability”

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    [–] SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 126 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    why is manjaro there twice? it's a horrible experience no one in their right mind would return to

    [–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 84 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    β€œMaybe I was the problem?”

    [–] SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 80 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    they managed to make arch less stable, never update their ssl cert, and every installation slowly falls apart until it's unusable... sure, I'm the problem

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 50 points 1 month ago

    You are, by installing it in the first place.

    [–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

    My system I installed 10 years ago is unusuable now?

    [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

    "I donated money to them so I am going to use it."

    Although not much, just 20 EUR. Not sure how much the bundled Windows license costs, but surely Microsoft has other ways to earn from spyware.

    [–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

    Nope. The developers are notorious. Look it up bud.

    [–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I love my Manjaro. I always come back to it… but I may not be in my right mind.

    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    To be fair, it's OK. Just you might want to check out EndeavourOS when you need to format your PC again.

    [–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I have both and I like them almost equally.

    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I think I've seen this story before. :P

    [–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago
    [–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

    Everything is in the β€œalmost” πŸ˜…

    [–] tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)
    [–] Wfh@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    This is perfectly normal.

    It also works with a Gaussian: (Noob) haha Fedora go brrr -> (angry advanced) nooo you must use Arch/Nix/Gentoo/Slackware -> (Linus Torvalds) haha Fedora go brrr

    [–] msage@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Fedora fucked up my PC way more times in a year than Gentoo did in 3.

    I'm not leaving Gentoo.

    [–] Damage@feddit.it 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I've updated fedora releases for like 10 years with zero issues, even went from one laptop to the other and dd'd three times to new SSDs without reinstalling.

    I think it may be you who fucked up your PC.

    [–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    It was nvidia drivers mostly.

    And it was 12 years ago.

    [–] Damage@feddit.it 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Yeah I had lots of problems with Winmodems on Slackware 20 years ago, definitely a bad distro too!

    [–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I switched to Ubuntu then and has no issues since.

    So yeah.

    [–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    But you said you were on Gentoo

    [–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

    Yeah, switched from Ubuntu to Gentoo eventually, since Ubuntu went to absolute shit.

    [–] Pika@rekabu.ru 1 points 2 weeks ago

    Except Fedora is actually fine as an option. Though I had my share of troubles setting it up, and their decision to ditch X11 forced my hand to OpenSUSE when I went for it the second time. Had no regrets so far.

    [–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Look, don't judge me, but manjaro has been the only distro to just work. I haven't been fucked by nvidia drivers that I know of, I haven't had any glaring issues... I'm not saying I disagree with the criticisms, but as a 'just use the fucking computer' distro, it's great.

    [–] prunerye@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 month ago

    Manjaro's fine. Most of their problems were years ago. If it works for you, don't listen to the mob.

    [–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

    Manjaro is awesome. The hate is not deserved and as you said, everything just works perfectly.

    [–] Pika@rekabu.ru 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    As someone who ran Manjaro as my first Linux for 1,5 years, it's a breeze to set up and everything just works...until it doesn't.

    What screws it is that eventually, over time, something goes wrong. Something breaks here and there, new bugs appear, and without Arch proficiency that is not really expected of a Manjaro user, it's next to impossible to track it down. So, eventually one has to reinstall.

    I've been a strong Manjaro proponent back in the day, but now I see its flaws, unfortunately. I wish it could be a great option, though.

    [–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Lol, that does make me wonder. I think I changed the boot process from silent to visible at one point, because it wouldn't boot if the silent option was enabled.

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    That's...very odd :D

    Especially if it was GRUB. This thing normally just works on any distro, even the less stable ones.

    [–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Yeah, it was grub. I changed it to see if I could find where it was hanging in the boot process, but as soon as I made the change it would simply boot without issue.

    [–] Pika@rekabu.ru 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Manjaro is a tempting option when you want Arch without being competent enough to confidently operate Arch.

    Been there before. Had it for over a year for the first time, but quickly noped out on the second try.