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[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (65 children)

I don't mean to come off as a conservative cunt, but what evidence is there that 2024 was rigged?

As an outside observer all I saw was sexism and racism handing the election to trump, or I guess democrats being so high on their own supply that they thought the right time to run a PoC woman as candidate was at a 70 year high of fascism

[–] Mika@piefed.ca 22 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Idk about the elections, but as a Ukrainian I've seen the stark difference in about a half a year since he bought twitter.

He manually switched off visibility for NAFO. Like as if they became shadowbanned, invisible to the "for you" feed.

He made it so big Ukrainian accounts are mostly visible to Ukrainians only. This was enough not to make them leave the platform but silenced their voices to the outside world.

It's quite obvious we were just the testing grounds, USA elections were the real deal.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

That's happening everywhere, including here on Lemmy. Your instance controls what's seen on the all page, so the larger instances control what the larger audiences see.

[–] Mika@piefed.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it really a thing? I don't mean defederation, do threadiverse instances use custom algorithms to provide content to users custom-tailored to them?

[–] towerful@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I know that programming.dev doesn't defederate from problematic instances, but their problematic communities don't show up in the all feed (so you have to specifically search for & subscribe to them).
At least, I believe that's how it works.

[–] Mika@piefed.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Algorithm isn't that. It's not just a block.

I don't think anyone here did create anything like that that isn't some simple formula that accounts for number of likes, date & number of comments, converts that to a single number and sort by that. Plus, there is a way to sort differently in many ways.

Algorithm will not completely prevent you from being in the feed. But your visibility drops thousandfold. Posts that previously would get thousands of likes get 20 views.

Same way they create popular political figures and newsfeeds out of nowhere. Just ramp visibility in the algorithm to the target groups.

Algorithm is a blackbox that is unpredictable to the end user by design. The idea is that algorithm learns what you like to read, what are you interacting with, so it feeds you the content to keep you engaged to the max. The parameters by which you see some post but not the other are not decided by some clear sorting rule. Each user would have lots of hidden values which impact the sort order.

While being generally useful (despite the hate, people love to be engaged with content they like to see), people also don't notice that they are being fed/denied some content because they are used to their feed being a black box.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They aren't blocked. Users can still subscribe to them.
They don't show up in the All feed.

Sounds like an modified algorithm to me

[–] Mika@piefed.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

You can sub to see. With algorithm, you'll see unsubbed content above subbed.

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