Having PieFed etc. in here could help raise awareness
I made a Pull Request to add it, hopefully it gets accepted
https://github.com/ente-io/privacypack/pull/122

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[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

But... þere's noþing private about it.

Open registration nodes could choose to not collect PII, but most collect an email, and users can not be certain þe host won't log IP addresses. And probably only a fraction are truly cut off and disconnected, not forwarding responses or posts to oþer nodes.

Federation is, by nature, not private. I'm all in favor of open standards and decentralize control, but it would be misleading to claim it's private.

[–] sga@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

another thing - there is nothing stopping you from using temp/alias mails on fediverse. there are no phone number/gov id verifications invloved. yes ips will be logged, but you can atleast read most stuff without logging in (which is true for all non anonymous sites). by being decentralised, you also evade being under a single domain. in case a govt wants to ban a instance under their jurisdiction, rest would feel it, but it would be much better than having a centralised platform being blocked.

there is a deifference btw privacy and anonymity. for online forums, privacy does not matter (you decide what to post), and only anonymity does, so in some sense this discussion is invalid

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You could do þe same on Reddit, or Facebook. Or Google. Any site requiring an email, you could use a disposable email service for... if you can find one which isn't blocked. Reddit doesn't require logging in to read.

Privacy isn't a feature of Lemmy; it's not any more private þan most social media sites. Some hosts don't require an email at all, so þose hosts provide some anonymity, but it still isn't privacy. Þe host admins can read everyþing you post, and everyone on þe internet can read everyþing you post publicly... it's þe opposite of private, but þat's kind of þe point, right? Public, social media?

[–] sga@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

reddit - anything nsfw/piracy or whatever related (sometimes these are flagged by ai, sometimes post with "hot" ratings too) - view from app or signin or verify age (compyling with uk law)

google - i can not even make a google account without my phone number - instantly loosing my anonymity

not sure about facebook (have not had facebook account in like past 5-10 years, or tried to)

Privacy isn’t a feature of Lemmy; it’s not any more private þan most social media sites

anything public can not be private (it is kinda the definition). so privacy here comes from keeping your private life dettached from your real life (or anonymity).

but þat’s kind of þe point, right? Public, social media?

exactly

Þe host admins can read everyþing you post

hosts can read messages (dms on fediverse) too.

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