Fuck Cars
A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!
Rules
1. Be Civil
You may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.
2. No hate speech
Don't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.
3. Don't harass people
Don't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.
4. Stay on topic
This community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.
5. No reposts
Do not repost content that has already been posted in this community.
Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.
Posting Guidelines
In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:
- [meta] for discussions/suggestions about this community itself
- [article] for news articles
- [blog] for any blog-style content
- [video] for video resources
- [academic] for academic studies and sources
- [discussion] for text post questions, rants, and/or discussions
- [meme] for memes
- [image] for any non-meme images
- [misc] for anything that doesn’t fall cleanly into any of the other categories
Recommended communities:
view the rest of the comments
I mean if you really want to get down to it, people have the transportation options they vote for in most cases. I live in an area where people are pretty enthusiastic about transit and cycling and even here people feel like they have a god give right to do 10mph over the speed limit.
We recently had a big push to install speed cameras outside schools, which would only be active for two hours pers day, and the council meeting was still absolutely filled with assholes trying to argue that literally just enforcing the speed limit during the start and end of the schoolday was a violation of their rights.
The older I get the more I realize that people are always at least part of the problem. Especially in a democracy, since democracy is something you do, not something which is done to you.
I can't meet whatever threshold of proof, but there's no way "Driving any slower than the speed limit is just as dangerous" ISN'T what the raging lunatics on the road tell themselves when weaving thru traffic before they comment the same thing on posts like these.
It's such a common brain blind spot. Videos of lunatics flipping their own cars trying to pass someone will have comments blaming the other car.
It’s absolutely and obviously untrue that driving slower is equally dangerous.
Absolutely and obviously until you get someone merging at 30 into a highway; merging at far lower speeds is very dangerous. Blind turns not going a reasonable speed limit can also be dangerous. Like, I fuckin hate cars. i bike everywhere. But I'm not going to make a take like "being slower is never as dangerous"
You’re misrepresenting what I’m saying. I just mean it’s not equally dangerous. If we’re comparing comparable speed differences it’s much safer to drive slower. Yes, 30 mph slower is dangerous but less so than driving 30 mph faster.
Generally the safest speed would be the slowest one that doesn’t create a hazard through speed differential with traffic.
Of course people are the problem. But the problem is the people arguing and voting for more car infrastructure, which is a different set of people than drivers. A lot of people drive while being supportive of other modes of transportation, because they have to use the infrastructure that already exists.