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[–] Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works 64 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

Not a movie, but Warcraft 3 tried hard to convince you that Arthas was doing wrong things, when most of the things were pragmatic decisions.

The big one you're supposed to think is the fork in the road where he, a paladin pledged to the light, had lost his way is when you discover a city you are trying to save from the undead is infected. Everyone in the city is dead, they just don't know it yet. And when they die they will turn into more undead for an already stretched thin army to fight against. An entire city worth of fresh dead for the undead legion.

So Arthas takes his army, burns the city, and purges/kills everyone within, so that they do not suffer undeath, and those yet living don't have another horde of dead to struggle fighting against. The people there don't know why they are being killed, but are we supposed to believe that if Arthas had time to explain they'd want to become undead?

Whole thing was him doing the objectively correct thing, getting rightfully angry when his subordinates lack the conviction/loyalty/discipline to do what was best for all living people in the realm. And we're supposed to think HE is the one who is wrong.

Nah. Miss me with that. Arthas did nothing wrong. Until later, when he did. But not when he burned that city.

Edit: I also just noticed this is a movie specific community. I thought the question was interesting and wanted to contribute, but given it is offtopic from movies, should I remove this?

[–] nagaram@startrek.website 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As a guy who felt the same way what 20 years ago when I played that game.

Keep it up. World needs to know.

But he did fuck up in the next campaign when he grabbed frostmourne. That was objectively a bad move.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even before he grabs Frostmourne, hiring mercenaries to burn your boats so that your men are forced to follow your revenge quest is pretty fucked up.

I think the thing people miss is that even though what Arthas did at Stratholme was strategically correct, he was already doing it for the wrong reasons.

[–] Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

The burning of the boats was the real turning point for me.

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