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[–] Johnny101@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Google’s developer verification will only run on mainstream Android with play services. It’s not supposed won’t be running in standard AOSP so the easiest solution would be to switch to a custom ROM like GrapheneOS.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They are also working to similarly kill custom ROMs. Just recently the GrapheneOS team mentioned that Google is no longer making their hardware drivers Open Source, and so compatibility with new phones means reverse engineering their own drivers - which is a big reason that custom ROMs support such narrow hardware options already and very often come with limitations and/or features that just don't work. At best, they figure out how to make it work, but it takes time and updates can lag significantly behind.

We have a lot of options on the software side for avoiding google (or android), but very limited options on hardware. We need open source mobile hardware support ASAP.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -1 points 4 days ago

They’re not so much working to kill custom roms as they are just not giving away their code anymore, going closed source for their own hardware.

[–] cosmo@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

While true, the pool of unlockable devices are dwindling fast.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 4 days ago

even the OP is softlocking thier newer phones(arbitrary online application to unlock it) in the near future, i expect a full lock sooner or later

[–] Johnny101@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

True…. I heard GrapheneOS is having trouble porting to the Pixel 10

[–] hietsu@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Also, aren’t some critical apps like banking apps starting to ban unlocked / non-stock systems? Heard someone complaining about this a while ago.

[–] Johnny101@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Yes, banking apps, streaming apps, even some shopping apps. This has been a problem for a long time. Sometimes its for “security” reasons and sometimes its simply because the app uses Play Service APIs. Another issue on de-googled systems is push notifications, though that is often fixed through alternates like Unified Push

[–] coolkie@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

But remember, unlocking bootloader is harder and harder for many devices. And Google's Play Integrity and API changes makes removing trace of unlocked bootloader harder. Many apps not just banking, ChatGPT, games, some of social media is completely unusable in that scenario.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't have that choice in Denmark due to NemID.

[–] Johnny101@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Like other people have suggested, maybe get a second phone (one of those really cheap ones with play Services) and use that for that stuff, and keep your main personal phone google-free.

[–] ninjascum@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

This is the way for me too

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You can just install Android. Only certified vendors will have the blocking activated.

[–] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago

Well, fuck. Most of people use F-Droid on "certified vendors" device.