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C'mon, Trotsky, don't be a dick (infosec.pub)

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If Trotsky refused to go to those restaurants he would be right. By going he was effectively treating them as slaves by expecting unpaid labor as he knew that was their source of income.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

where would you go to as a protest against tipping? where do they not force you to tip?

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I tip when I go to places that expect tips because my stiffing individual wait staff isn't going to change anything. If I was going to 'protest' I would just boycott sit down restaurants. At this point I only go if someone else really wants to.

There are tons of place to get good food that doesn't involve tipping and I can just make food at home too. Counter service restaurants might have a pity jar for tips, but the business is still paying their staff and not expecting 95% of wages to come from that jar.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I tip when I go to places that expect tips because my stiffing individual wait staff isn’t going to change anything. If I was going to ‘protest’ I would just boycott sit down restaurants. At this point I only go if someone else really wants to.

I do the same today... I am just wondering if the same amount of choices was available in 1900 (which I doubt)

There are tons of place to get good food that doesn’t involve tipping

Today? hmmm I disagree

and I can just make food at home too

Absolutely which is what I do but again, not everybody is like us.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

People were able to make food at home or get food from places that didn't involve sitting down and making tiped wait staff serve someone for free in 1900.

You don't have fast food, counter service locations, street vendors, or any of the other food sources that don't involve sitting down and being served by someone whose primary income comes from tips?

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

get food from places that didn’t involve sitting down and making tiped wait staff serve someone for free in 1900.

Really? I had no idea but I guess you are an expert?

You don’t have fast food, counter service locations, street vendors, or any of the other food sources that don’t involve sitting down and being served by someone whose primary income comes from tips?

Honestly no, every one of those ask for tips now here in Canada.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 4 points 5 days ago

Is it the vast majority of their income like wait staff in the US?

No? Then tipping is optional there and has nothing to do with what Trotsky did which was in the US when 100% of their income came from tips or current US waitstaff where the vast majority of their income still comes from tips.