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C'mon, Trotsky, don't be a dick (infosec.pub)

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Hmmm I think it helps... if the waiting staff cannot make a living, they would look for better paying jobs thus forcing their current employers to pay better OR forcing them to close.

How is this different from any other "boycott" company X by not giving them any money? I could say you are condemning those employees to be inevitably laid off by not giving the corp money

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"Hey guys, lets punish the workers so that they have to make change happen instead of maybe taking the initiative to get the laws changed."

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So what do you do to get the laws changed?

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 4 points 5 days ago

Nothing, absolutely nothing. There are many other things that impact me directly that take up my time.

But while doing nothing about changing the laws around tipping I am also not punishing the wait staff by refusing to engage in the current system to their detriment. My criticism is leveled at the people who stiff wait staff while doing nothing to fix the system.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

People aren't working at a restaurant because they have other options available. It's a shit job that doesn't care if you have no degree, prior convictions, or a mental disorder. All they care about is that you can get to work on time and accomplish 75% of your duties everyday. Most places offer no insurance, have no retirement plans, and force you to work most holidays and weekends. It's a shit job for people with no other options, and you're saying they should get paid less or find a new job

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

People aren’t working at a restaurant because they have other options available

Not sure now... but a few years back it was the best "non skilled" job to have precisely because of tips

It’s a shit job that doesn’t care if you have no degree, prior convictions, or a mental disorder. All they care about is that you can get to work on time and accomplish 75% of your duties everyday

It does usually require people to be pretty/attractive... there are other jobs (anything back of the house) that does not require this under the same shitty work conditions

It’s a shit job for people with no other options, and you’re saying they should get paid less or find a new job

That is not what I am saying at all... Grocery store cashiers get very similar shitty conditions and they get no tips I would like to end tipping and would love for people to be paid a living wage, the question is "how we get there?" and I am trying to see Trotsky's take on it.

Of course, this is another social media post and it would immediately be blasted and misinterpreted without an iota of thought put into it

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Worked IT for a payroll company with a bunch of restaurant clients. It was not unusual for servers to drag home $4,000+ a month in tips alone.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 1 points 5 days ago

Cool. I made $300 a week doing full-time weeknight bartending last year as my primary income. Most servers are barely scraping by