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[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

This is why the web is way better than any app store, yes even with the problems of DNS (DIDs becoming more prevalent cant come fast enough though). Any future phones should have a first class web experience imo.

Edit: I wanna add that browser monopolies are a real threat too. Ladybird is legit on Charlie Kirk's side aka nonpolitical so not a fan of the outlook there. Would love to see KDE fork chromium/blink with valve money and recreate Konquerer and bring back KHTML (I like irony). Valve even has a fork of CEF (Chromium Embedded Framework, electron uses this as well) because of Steam and its ui being a big web app. KDE then has web apps and add them to Discovery, or you can build qt apps. Make it happen valve! And hire me to help lol

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's how I browse Lemmy - I sometimes forget that my home-pinned app, Voyager, isn't actually from the app store.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Voyager is on the play store and App Store?

[–] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its a progressive web app, which means it is available as a browser based site that can be installed like an app.

Additionally that "like an app" part is packaged up and available on play and FDroid stores.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

O……k……….

It’s available on the App Store and the play store, and it’s definitely not just a PWA lol.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Interesting. I think when I first heard about it, it wasn't available there yet; so I'm still using that pinned version. Probably not much different.

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m only just learning about this, but don’t the encrypted DNS protocols solve the privacy problem?

Or do you mean more like not being able to trust a registrar or public DNS server?

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Usually when people complain about DNS, they're talking about stability issues. In this case I think he's pointing out how centralized it is, and how a bad actor could cause significant issues

At a local level, the most common issue I know of is ISPs blocking sites at the DNS level by feeding in fake information that redirects you to one of the ISP's blocked/parked domains. Usually implemented to prevent customers going to piracy sites. It's not much of an issue to subvert currently, as you can simply use any public DNS provider

That being said, much of that has been consolidated into a dozen or so tech companies. In the current political climate, I could see a coordinated effort happening between those tech companies to block sites deemed non gratis. Obviously there's still ways to subvert it, but the vast majority of user's won't be able to

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 0 points 1 day ago

Cloudflare are now behind ladybird so I’m hoping it becomes a legit challenger.