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Yes. But don’t understate the shit the Soviets were doing.
That's some serious knee-jerk whataboutism. You should see a doctor about that.
Yes indeed, everything that strays from the dogma at hand is whataboutism. Historical perspective, nuanced details, everything. To say the CIA is bad implicitly implies everyone else was good.
Can you not have more than one thought in your head at any given time? Why would stating that CIA is bad imply that everyone else was good?
When only one drum is allowed to be beaten it makes it seem like only one drum is allowed to be heard.
Nobody is forbidding talk about the atrocities of the KGB, though. Have you considered you're just perhaps a little jaded by .ml and just need to chill?
I assure you, based on the responses to my initial comment (and the copious down arrows) that NO we can not talk about the KGB. It’s the CIA alone in the world f’ing up nations. That is the narrative. Do not look at a bigger picture.
Nope. The down arrows to your comment are due the sheer insanity of it. You're saying that every criticism of the CIA has to include a disclaimer saying the KGB is also bad or you're supporting it. You're completely and utterly out of your mind.
Nope. Didn’t say that at all. What I said was the CIA criticism -and it’s justified criticism- never carries with it any criticism of the Soviets, who were doing very similar shit. And for some reason that just pisses people off.
No, you did pretty explicitly say that.
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I constantly talk about Soviet crimes on here though, including on this very comm.
I’ve been hearing about CIA atrocities for decades. They’re real, they’re ongoing, they’re something people should know about. But most folks who dwell on the CIA never ever look into the other side of the Cold War, the KGB, the Soviet Union, and all the equally heinous shit they did. It’s like they didn’t exist and the CIA did its deeds out of perverse fun & psychosis. It was decades of covert “war” between two competing superpowers. Acknowledge that there were two sides and they both engaged in covert war activities.