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There are a lot of culprits in this scenario... (infosec.pub)
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[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The UK and France only ruled some of the areas briefly, after the fall of the Ottoman Empire in 1918.

The Ottoman Empire had colonized the region for centuries before.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, but the UK and France were the ones drawing the post-Ottoman borders, and they did so with... callous disregard for the consequences of said borders.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They drew the borders in accordance with negotiations with their Arab allies, who had fought against the ottomans with them. They also tried to protect minorities and preempt wars.

For example Lebanon was created as a state separate from Syria to provide a safe space for Maronite Christians. The Maronites wanted Lebanon to have more territory including the Bekaa valley inhabited by Shia Muslims because it had good farmland for food security. Syria was not happy about this and has been trying to control, occupy, and annex Lebanon ever since.

A Kurdish state was planned as well but never materialized because of local tensions.

You are misrepresenting history and the locals to further your „west = bad“ ideology.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They drew the borders in accordance with negotiations with their Arab allies, who had fought against the ottomans with them.

Bruh, the post-war betrayal of the Pan-Arab rebels is a major theme running through local resentment in the period.

For example Lebanon was created as a state separate from Syria to provide a safe space for Maronite Christians. The Maronites wanted Lebanon to have more territory including the Bekaa valley inhabited by Shia Muslims because it had good farmland for food security. Syria was not happy about this and has been trying to control, occupy, and annex Lebanon ever since.

Fucking what

You are misrepresenting history and the locals to further your „west = bad“ ideology.

what

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

fucking what

Yeah, as I thought you have no idea about actual history of the region.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The idea that Syria has been trying to 'control, occupy, and annex' Lebanon over a Shia majority area in contrast with the interests of Maronite Christians is... not in-line with reality.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Syria didn’t meddle in internal Lebanese politics and occupy parts of Lebanon?

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Syria didn’t meddle in internal Lebanese politics and occupy parts of Lebanon?

I'm sorry, are you only capable of reading the first third of a sentence?

The idea that Syria has been trying to ‘control, occupy, and annex’ Lebanon over a Shia majority area in contrast with the interests of Maronite Christians is… not in-line with reality.