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GrapheneOS is finally ready to break free from Pixels, and it may never look back
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It's America, it's going to be Samsung.
My $$ was on moto as well - it's already about the closest thing to stock and they probably need the boost.
Whereas Samsung is fucking worlds apart for actual android
I've loved my Motorola's. They're seemingly the last manufacturer that realises that for a bunch of people (myself included) a good priced mid-range device is more than sufficient.
just recently (2 months ago), I bought a Moto G84 5G, specifically because it had a snapdragon processor (and therefore good custom ROM support), is officially supported by LineageOS and it was cheap (160 EUR). I never needed a flagship phone, the cheap phones ~200 EUR always worked fine for me.
I was using Xiaomi/Redmi/Poco devices before that, but it seems that they have gone entirely Mediatek in that price segment, which is a shame.
I've never used one but a buddy has one (of some sort - no idea of the model) and he can barely use signal because the battery management keeps killing the app.
He's still got the stock ROM on it, but hasn't been able to make the messaging usable which is sad. I'd grabbed a Samsung that my work had somehow slipped from knox enrollment so was able to root it but found its battery management was similarly abysmal and am starting to worry if maybe recent android is emulating those old performance / malware apps that aggressively kill off everything rather than letting the OS handle its own memory...
Now I know this is all reading like a fever dream but my handsets are on laughably old droid versions because I'm scarred by A/B partitions and oneplus so have let it all slip (that and Google keeps shitting on android!), so after all that waffle, I'm curious if you've got any similar anecdotes??
Cheers, Flambonkscious the rando
I don't have any anecdotes, really. On all my cheap devices, I never really had any issues with apps getting killed by battery management. I know that sometimes, you'll have to specifically switch off battery management for these specific apps, which can usually be done with a single action that the app generally let's you access directly on first setup.
But I've always used stock android or at least AOSP based Roms - I've never stuck with OEM Roms longer than the (usually) first 7 days they keep you from unlocking the bootloader. Once I can unlock the bootloader, the OEM Rom is gone.
I do know that some OEMs have their own battery management implemented on top of androids, which is often more aggressive, and a bit more convoluted to access.
Yeah, this was really my first time with a Samsung and I'll never go near it again...
But Motorola doesn't have phones priced the same as Pixel (unless talking only about the Edge series).
Razr is in that range.
I hope so, I love samsung's hardware and having a secure OS option to get out from under their godawful UI / OS stuff would be amazing.
Yeah, GraphineOS with OneUI would be a hard sell
Samsung is the largest Android manufacturer by a wide margin, and make a bunch of their money using spyware. Seems unlikely they would give GOS the time of day.
While it would be amazing if Samsung did open their phones up for custom ROMs again, I highly doubt they are doing. Its going to be a much smaller OEM.