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AI is not popular, and AI users are unpleasant asshats (pivot-to-ai.com)

submitted 5 days ago by dgerard@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems

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science shows as true what you thought was only 99% true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVf7VUX_iUk&list=UU9rJrMVgcXTfa8xuMnbhAEA - video
https://pivottoai.libsyn.com/20251015-ai-is-not-popular-and-ai-users-are-unpleasant-asshats - podcast

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

… the search engines became crap because of ai

I mean, search has always been built on some kind of LLM. That's how you convert a query into a list of page-results.

We've just started trying to wrap the outputs into a natural language response pattern in order to make them feel more definitive and more engaging. The "AI" part of search is mostly window-dressing.

Plus, ai just lies.

It has inaccurate heuristics and often tries to back-fill what it can't find with an approximation in order to maintain user engagement.

Idk if I'd even call it lying, so much as bullshitting.

[–] self@awful.systems 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I mean, search has always been built on some kind of LLM. That’s how you convert a query into a list of page-results.

no it fucking hasn’t. the stemming and page ranking algorithms used in traditional search have absolutely nothing to do with LLMs.

shit, neither stemming nor PageRank as originally defined even have a machine learning component. here’s postgres’ full text search suite, which literally converts a textual query into a list of results (sans page ranking, which is out of scope for a database) in a manner suitable for a production search engine, utterly without any machine learning or other stochastic crap.