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1 sure looks like him activating a shock collar because he doesn't want her allowed to do anything other than sit in one designated spot while he's doing his stream

2 is self-explanatory

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[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wasn't saying you specifically, but funny how "there is a genocide going on" is the same crap he says to deflect. I can give a shit about more than one thing at once.

This is not overshadowing political discourse. We can talk and care about more than one thing at once. And who is the "you" and the "us" in this case? And who says I don't care if a right winger kills their dog? Everything you say is some version of whataboutism.

What if instead of animal abuse, he assaulted someone? What if it was sexual assault? What if he murdered someone? Where is the line at which point we are allowed to talk about it and condemn it? When does it go so far you can't deflect it with "there's a genocide"?

Let me turn that on you; you have comments on your account in the last month talking about tech and cars. How can you talk about that when there's a genocide going on?

And yes, you should fully reject a fucking abuser, it has nothing to do with their politics. I already told I'm a leftist and I can do it, so you can to. Stop protecting a fucking abuser.

[–] Orygin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I talk about the genocide because that's what is eclipsed by all the haters that started this witch hunt.
The you and us is the out group and in group, can be anything; but in this case I'm labeled as an animal abuse defender because I don't immediately reject someone based on a 30s clip where a dog yelps. To the point where you doubt my moral line, suggesting I wouldn't care if he killed someone... Everything is black and white, either you agree entirely or you are the enemy.

If you want to inspect me further I can provide my reddit and hacker news account. You would see there that I do in fact care about what's happening currently (Palestine and other issues, geopolitical or not). Maybe you want to know which protests I have attended too if that's not enough.

Again I'm not advocating to defend Hasan as a pure no wrong doer, he's a rich asshole like every other. After more evidence has come to light, it seems true he's not a good dog owner, so yeah I'll give him the same level of attention as before: nearly zero. On the other hand it could as well have been a "we did it reddit" moment with someone being harassed by the usual hater group with free support because dog yelps.

I never doubted you care about Palestine, I'm just pointing how you can care about other stuff at the same time - good or bad. It seemed you were implying I can't care it because I'm calling out animal abuse. All is not black or white, but animal abuse is a pretty large line to cross. I was mostly ok with the left not criticizing him and ignoring him when he acted like a douche because it wasn't worth the trouble I suppose, but animal abuse should be called out. And when he and his fans go around gaslighting people - and you even have "leftist" streamers (if they aren't just clout chasers) contradicting each other trying to defend him - it's even more important to call it out and not let it be swept under the rug. Especially since the right can also seize the opportunity to take the moral high ground. I've even seen "apolitical" people calling it out and mocking it, but the few leftists who even mention it do it with kid's gloves.

Anyway, I don't remember exactly what my first comment here even was, but the gist of my point is: the dude abuses his dog and tries to gaslight people, we can care about multiple stuff, this shouldn't just be ignored, I think other leftists should at least condemn and call it out instead of looking away while others try to bury it. That's all.