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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

For sure the US is horrible with its healthcare and their chemical companies that have polluted the whole world. We can agree on that.

But when it comes to drugs killing people from overdoses, which is what the admin was arguing, it is fentanyl. This comes from China. Note I said we should be shutting these down not blowing them up.

I know people personally that have died from fentanyl, so I am not trying to mince words here. This is also just harm reduction because you can't really stop this. If China agrees to crack down what is to say another country won't pick up the slack.

This points to the need for cooperation not competition. The US promoting this pigheaded, imperialistic, and bombastic foreign policy is bad for everyone.

[–] tla@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

China supplies precursor chemicals (NPP, ANPP) to Mexico where the Sinaloa Cartel and others synthesize the finished product. Most of it is shipped across the southern US border. It's disingenuous to say China is supplying Fentanyl to the USA - like supplying fertilizer is supplying explosives. The so-called "war on drugs" has demonstrably failed. And the definition of stupid is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Perhaps dealing with why people feel the need to use drugs in the first place would be more successful?

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yes, I think that a lot of drug use comes from socioeconomic pressure. There is also a lot we can do with harm reduction besides just trying to decrease the supply.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago

This is also just harm reduction because you can’t really stop this. If China agrees to crack down what is to say another country won’t pick up the slack.

This is why we should be going after the root of the problem... Why are people wanting to do drugs in the first place? Life sucks? They have little to no opportunity to improve their quality of life? They have physical or mental health issues that aren't being treated properly? Poor understanding of the risks involved? None of this shit is solved by the war on drugs. Fix these social issues and the demand for mind altering substances will plummet. If I'm wrong, well we've done a lot of good anyway and at least we're not destroying lives over what people choose to put in their bodies.