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There isn’t really another choice: Signal chief explains why the encrypted messenger relies on AWS (www.theverge.com)
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[–] ZenAspirate@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

https://simplex.chat/

Self hostable as well

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Yep.

Either this or Matrix, XMPP or even IRC. Anything but Signal basically.

Yet Signal is what people here usually recommend :/ I don't even want to argue with them anymore.

[–] Turret3857 5 points 3 weeks ago

Signal is whats recommended because it's the least confusing for newcomers. Matrix can be difficult for new people to use (especially people coming from Discord) due to how disorganized rooms can be. Spaces can help somewhat but they aren't in any way perfect. Matrix is still leaking chatroom metadata from emoji reactions.

XMPP suffers from having a smaller userbase than Matrix, which already has a small userbase. (almost no FOSS projects use XMPP over Matrix)

and I'm not sure why you would recommend IRC for privacy/security in the big 25. Thats an odd drop.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can IRC even be encrypted?

[–] gloomweaver@forum.guncadindex.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, for... Decades?

[–] ZenAspirate@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

I got my family on sxc over a year ago it works pretty good for us

I was like if I'm gonna make them all switch apps anyway I may as well go for gold lol