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id wager that in toronto, you could build all the subways and LRT and trains, and the road traffic would stay the same. people don't look at cars just for convince, its a cultural thing in north America, that your life is sorted out, like having a house, a good job, savings/retirement fund. people look and treat you weird if you don't have a car or can't drive (ask me how i know that)
People ARE assholes like that, but they will take nice public transit if it's convenient. Especially if you want to have a drink or two going out or to a friend's house.
Sometimes if it's really convenient people take it instead of driving in rush hour which helps everyone!
you would be surprised how many people drink and drive. im telling you, unless there's a dramatic shift in culture around transportation, or the next generation realizes that cars aren't a great thing to be using, if someone can get a car and a license, they will do so as soon as possible, its so engrained even some jobs require you to have a license. People will use that lame duck as a excuse to get one.
That's why road diets and reducing road capacity is also important. Like Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Madrid or Vienna, the space dedicated to cars also have to be reduced in order to incite people to use something else than a car.
they tried doing that in a stretch of toronto and it was removed as soon as it was put up, the drivers just have that much leeway here