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[–] 2xar@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I agree, that is also very important. But I still think that getting rid of Pelosi and the other ghouls in the DNC would/could be the most important thing right now. The Democratic Party desperately needs a renewal, a progressive reform and to embrace real left-wing, socialist politics to save the middle class from sliding down and help poor people to break out - as opposed to give in to every wish and whim of billionaire oligarchs who are stealing literally all wealth from the rest of society.

The whole 'let's follow the republicans further and further to the right to grab the centrist's votes' idea clearly is not working. It is not making peoples' lives better (except for the oligarchs). And it is not even helping democrats win elections and secure power any more.

Appeasement didn't work against the nazis, why would it work against MAGA?

But unfortunately Pelosi, Schumer, Jeffries and the rest of these cronies are all absolutely hellbent on keeping up with the appeasement. They all need to retire or get primaried, or the US is lost to fascism for who knows how many decades.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 42 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The way I always put it, moving left may not win us elections (and those imagining a quiet leftist supermajority need to talk to more normies), but sure as shit it's been proven that neither will moving right.

Moving left will improve the country, while moving right will make it worse.

Ceteris paribus, the choice should be obvious: moving left isn't a panacea for our electoral problems, but it is still very much the preferable choice. Caution may be called for on specific issues, but in general, the American electorate is not very ideological in any coherent sense. 'Left' and 'right' are feelings for them, and they'll side with whichever 'sounds good' at a given moment.

Let's purge the Dems of these ancient neoliberal ghouls and move fucking left. I'm so fucking tired. If we still lose, at least this time we'll lose with a little basic fucking dignity. Which isn't much, but still a hell of a lot better than selling out and losing anyway.

[–] 2xar@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)