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As someone who has gone to proton and back. I do not recommend it. The service is mostly OK, their android apo never delivers notifications probably because of the lack of play services, and while every client is open source and is guaranteed to be e2ee to other proton accounts, there are two huge issues with this:
If I understand their documentation correctly, you can set up PGP for communicating with non-Proton e-mail recipients.
Yes. That is correct. I've sent pgp emails from my gmail to protonmail. But nobody uses pgp. So in practice you are spending all of that time and effort for basically 0 gain.
I feel you. The recipients must be willing to use encrypted communication either.
I never had any problems with their Android apps. The notifications have always worked for me.
And of course email is plain text and is stored on other servers when you send it. It's always been that way. Whatever service you use it's going to be the same problem. This isn't Proton specific. So I don't get your point here.
However, whatever you receive and keep, that's encrypted and no one can read it. And that's the whole point of having a secure encrypted email service like Proton.
Of course you are right. Those problems apply to Evey provider. My point is not that proton sucks. My point is that the protocol sucks and it's not worth the hassle of switching providers. The "whatever you receive and keep is encrypted and no one can read it" is another one of those false of security kind of thing that make you relax and think you are safe, when in reality they could EASILY be copying your email somewhere else unencrypted when you send and receive. That means that you spent your time switching provider just for a "trust me bro"
Their drive service is worth it though
Which enail provider do you recommend?
Sally, host your own lol. I know it's not the answer most are looking for but it's the only viable option I see at this point.
None. The problem is not the provider, it's the protocol. Proton has the problems listed before, but it is impossible for ANY provider not to have those. I'd keep using whatever you are using