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[โ€“] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not really swayed by the cruelty argument personally. I am much more open to the environmental damage arguments, but it's specifically the way vegans prefer to paint the issue in terms of a moral imperative which keeps me at arms length.

There are legitimately places in the world where the only realistic way to extract nutrients from the land is to graze goats and eat them. That reduces the morality argument to agricultural privilege imo.

97% of animals in the US are factory farmed. If you live in the US, it really is as simple as I stated. If you are one of the vanishingly few people that actually do live in places where the only option is pastoralism, then that's fine. But the vast majority of people do not. Judging Americans by the standards of a Sub-Saharan shepard is just as ridiculous as the other way around.